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11-17-2022, 10:54 AM
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Historical BLURRING
Its funny how history becomes "OUT OF FOCUS" over time...The great horse Eclipse is credited with 18 wins in the time of 1769-70...If you look CLOSER, however, a full EIGHT of the these were "walkovers!'
The TRUTH changes one's perspective of a lot of things.
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11-17-2022, 11:11 AM
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PA Steward
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
The TRUTH changes one's perspective of a lot of things.
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Unfortunately, not often enough
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11-17-2022, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Its funny how history becomes "OUT OF FOCUS" over time...The great horse Eclipse is credited with 18 wins in the time of 1769-70...If you look CLOSER, however, a full EIGHT of the these were "walkovers!'
The TRUTH changes one's perspective of a lot of things.
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"After 17 months of racing, Eclipse was retired to stud due to lack of competition — no one was willing to bet on his rival horses"...
https://uknowledge.uky.edu/world_yom...oroughbreds/1/
Yes, all the truth can change, but also solidify one's understanding of history.
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11-17-2022, 04:00 PM
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I don’t know about that . The truth is when people figure out they have no chance they avoid the best . People were questioning why Life Is Good went to the Classic. That’s what happens when it appears unwinable. Some races back then were 3 and 4 miles long (heats). It was said he won some by a furlong or more . Oh, they line up to race you when you win like that. This horse ran over 60 miles in races . He pretty much ran further in a day than some of these modern day horses run in a career. You can quibble but it’s not that blurry to me . I guess they used to say…. Eclipse in front , the rest no where. And they didn’t come out of the woodwork to challenge him . Who would ?
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11-24-2022, 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Unfortunately, not often enough
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Ain't that the truth...
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11-24-2022, 11:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dnlgfnk
"After 17 months of racing, Eclipse was retired to stud due to lack of competition — no one was willing to bet on his rival horses"...
https://uknowledge.uky.edu/world_yom...oroughbreds/1/
Yes, all the truth can change, but also solidify one's understanding of history.
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Nailed it.
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11-24-2022, 12:45 PM
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clean money
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The more the 21st century is dominated by smart devices and social media, the more there is a collective longing for the mid-late 1700s.
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11-24-2022, 03:01 PM
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Just another Facist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
The more the 21st century is dominated by smart devices and social media, the more there is a collective longing for the mid-late 1700s.
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Are u phicking uts? The 1700’s?
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11-24-2022, 07:43 PM
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clean money
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JustRalph
Are u phicking uts? The 1700’s?
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Happy Thanksgiving Ralph
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11-24-2022, 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
The more the 21st century is dominated by smart devices and social media, the more there is a collective longing for the mid-late 1700s.
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A little farther. Descartes was rejecting the common sense view of man by 1637.
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11-29-2022, 03:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
The more the 21st century is dominated by smart devices and social media, the more there is a collective longing for the mid-late 1700s.
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11-29-2022, 10:57 PM
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Things haven't changed that much. I wanted as much as anyone for Flightline to run as a 5-year old, but it's fair to wonder who the heck would be willing to run against him. Those probably would have been some pretty sorry fields. This is a rare sport where it's considered better to not compete at all, than it is to lose.
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