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11-16-2012, 06:21 PM
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DATA NEEDED
Hi:
I am looking to find old data to run a few statistical tests. I just need basic files that can be put into a database. I need past performances and results. As far as past performances, I only need the basics such as track,distance, surface, times (broken down as much as possible), beaten lengths, etc.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Rxlawyer 
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11-16-2012, 06:39 PM
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subscribe to HDW not that expensive and they have a huge database.
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11-16-2012, 06:41 PM
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Thank You
Thank you!
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11-23-2012, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HUSKER55
subscribe to HDW not that expensive and they have a huge database.
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I have been using BRIS Multicaps data. How does HDW data compare? What is the advantage with HDW data over BRIS. Isn't BRIS the main source of input for HDW data? If not what is the source for HDW data?
Thanks
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11-23-2012, 12:40 PM
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Just another Facist
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http://www.brisnet.com/php/archive_first.php
HDW is much better than BRIS
I've used both.
The Bris data has to be massaged.
It's valuable and I use it for my everyday data, but only because I play very little anymore.
If you're serious you use HDW
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11-23-2012, 03:39 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
I have been using BRIS Multicaps data. How does HDW data compare? What is the advantage with HDW data over BRIS. Isn't BRIS the main source of input for HDW data? If not what is the source for HDW data?
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Equibase is the source of all data.
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11-23-2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
http://www.brisnet.com/php/archive_first.php
HDW is much better than BRIS
I've used both.
The Bris data has to be massaged.
It's valuable and I use it for my everyday data, but only because I play very little anymore.
If you're serious you use HDW
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Is there a data definition description anywhere like BRIS has for its data files?
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11-23-2012, 06:43 PM
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Capper Al,
If I'm not mistaken, HDW data is always associated with a particular program (HTR, HSH, JCapper, etc.) and I believe the file structures are unique to each program and can be gotten from the program authors.
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11-23-2012, 09:46 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by OverlayHunter
Capper Al,
If I'm not mistaken, HDW data is always associated with a particular program (HTR, HSH, JCapper, etc.) and I believe the file structures are unique to each program and can be gotten from the program authors.
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Yep, and more
http://www.horsedata.com/
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11-23-2012, 10:16 PM
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DJ M.Walk
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
Is there a data definition description anywhere like BRIS has for its data files?
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You can get a sample look of how the JCapper pp's look. It is basically the same laid out as bris. http://www.jcapper.com/messageboard/..._10102011.html
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11-23-2012, 11:15 PM
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
Is there a data definition description anywhere like BRIS has for its data files?
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Jeff mapped the HDW data to the Brisnet format for use in the AllData Project. So, the .jcp files will work like Bris files, they also have .xrd results files, that work like the Bris .xrd files.
PM Jeff and he can give you the low-down.
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11-24-2012, 01:18 AM
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I have been using HDW for the last two years.
If you play everyday, at multiple tracks, its the best deal I have found.
Nothing but good things to say about them.
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11-24-2012, 07:48 AM
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
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I think you'll find that if you use pace and speed figs, JCapper/HDW figs are probably a bit better than Bris, and the JCapper files have a few more items in them than Bris (while occupying fields that are not used by Bris data and still having the same 1435 field structure). But regarding the raw data, they are about the same. Any software that will use Bris single file data should also be able to use JCapper/HDW data.
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11-24-2012, 07:53 AM
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A record layout for HDW like BRIS displays on their website for Multicaps is what I'm looking for. Here's BRIS':
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/static.cgi?page=mcstruct
Thanks
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11-24-2012, 07:55 AM
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
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The layout would be the same, except JCapper/HDW files have data in some fields that are blank in the Bris files.
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