Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board

Go Back   Horse Racing Forum - PaceAdvantage.Com - Horse Racing Message Board > Off Topic > Off Topic - General


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 10-05-2022, 07:36 PM   #16
46zilzal
velocitician
 
46zilzal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 26,289
Nothing new

The Hubbert peak theory is based on the observation that the amount of oil under the ground in any region is finite, therefore the rate of discovery which initially increases quickly must reach a maximum and decline. In the US, oil extraction followed the discovery curve after a time lag of 32 to 35 years. The theory is named after American geophysicist M. King Hubbert, who created a method of modeling the production curve given an assumed ultimate recovery volume.

And you wonder why the price continues to increase along with the fact that the MAJOR auto companies SEE the future and are moving IN MASS, to electic and hybrid cars.
__________________
"If this world is all about winners, what's for the losers?" Jr. Bonner: "Well somebody's got to hold the horses Ace."
46zilzal is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-05-2022, 07:45 PM   #17
JustRalph
Just another Facist
 
JustRalph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,773
Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal View Post
The Hubbert peak theory is based on the observation that the amount of oil under the ground in any region is finite, therefore the rate of discovery which initially increases quickly must reach a maximum and decline. In the US, oil extraction followed the discovery curve after a time lag of 32 to 35 years. The theory is named after American geophysicist M. King Hubbert, who created a method of modeling the production curve given an assumed ultimate recovery volume.

And you wonder why the price continues to increase along with the fact that the MAJOR auto companies SEE the future and are moving IN MASS, to electic and hybrid cars.
Yep…..there’s only enough oil in west Texas for the next 200 years.

They better hurry……
__________________
WE ARE THE DUMBEST COUNTRY ON THE PLANET!
JustRalph is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-05-2022, 08:42 PM   #18
elysiantraveller
Registered User
 
elysiantraveller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
Biden Administration going to announce easing of sanctions on Venezuela. Will allow Chevron to pump and ease pressure in US/EU markets.

We really need to nationalize our refineries though, leverage the strategic reserve to fix prices, and subsidize drilling.
__________________
Dumbest timeline confirmed...
elysiantraveller is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-05-2022, 09:44 PM   #19
garyscpa
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,516
Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller View Post
Biden Administration going to announce easing of sanctions on Venezuela. Will allow Chevron to pump and ease pressure in US/EU markets.

We really need to nationalize our refineries though, leverage the strategic reserve to fix prices, and subsidize drilling.
Yes, socialism's the answer.
garyscpa is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-05-2022, 10:37 PM   #20
Stevecsd2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 664
Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller View Post
Biden Administration going to announce easing of sanctions on Venezuela. Will allow Chevron to pump and ease pressure in US/EU markets.

We really need to nationalize our refineries though, leverage the strategic reserve to fix prices, and subsidize drilling.

You mean like Venezuela???:confuse d:
Stevecsd2 is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-05-2022, 10:42 PM   #21
elysiantraveller
Registered User
 
elysiantraveller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
Quote:
Originally Posted by garyscpa View Post
Yes, socialism's the answer.
Noooo...

You don't understand production.

You nationalize refineries because we have a strategic interest in the amount of crude refinement. We can also refine more of it than anyone in the world... its not even close.

Then you fix prices and provide subsidies so that domestic production of crude can actually get off the ground before the Saudis and OPEC+ can kill it off by ramping production to where it's not a profitable investment.
__________________
Dumbest timeline confirmed...
elysiantraveller is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-05-2022, 10:44 PM   #22
elysiantraveller
Registered User
 
elysiantraveller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevecsd2 View Post
You mean like Venezuela???:confuse d:
No. Like Saudi Arabia.

See above.

What happens to oil prices is whenever competitors begin to crop up the Saudis just start pumping more. That lowers the prices and domestic producers get taken to the cleaners on their investment.

It's actually breaking a monopoly.
__________________
Dumbest timeline confirmed...

Last edited by elysiantraveller; 10-05-2022 at 10:52 PM.
elysiantraveller is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-05-2022, 10:56 PM   #23
mostpost
Registered User
 
mostpost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Riverside, Il.
Posts: 16,097
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom View Post
Biden has depleted our STRATEGIC oil reserves to new low levels and id going to release more. We will have to replace it with$100+ a barrel oil. Trump had found a deal to top it off for $24 a barrel, but UpChuck Schumer killed it.

After severley hurting oil ability to supply our own oil, Biden buddied up to the Saudi's worst enemy, Iran, which is pushing SA closer to Russia and China, and then attacked the Saudi Prince calling him a murdere and pissing him off royally, all before going there, hat in hand, kneeling and groveling, begging for oil. Duh.

The man is a traitor, he should be impeached Day 2 of the next congress.
Strangely enough in 2021 we imported 2.231 Trillion barrels of oil. Fewer than any Trump year except the pandemic year of 2020 and the fewest since 1992. We also produced 4.115 trillion barrels domestically. That is above the Average for four years of Trump.

Finally, in 2021 64.8% of our crude oil was produced domestically. A higher % than 3 of 4 Trump years.

By the way, the Saudi Prince is a murderer. And the next Congress will be more Democratic than this one.
WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE ME LAUGH!!!!!
__________________
"When you come at the King, You'd best not miss." Omar Little
mostpost is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-05-2022, 10:58 PM   #24
elysiantraveller
Registered User
 
elysiantraveller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost View Post
Strangely enough in 2021 we imported 2.231 Trillion barrels of oil. Fewer than any Trump year except the pandemic year of 2020 and the fewest since 1992. We also produced 4.115 trillion barrels domestically. That is above the Average for four years of Trump.

Finally, in 2021 64.8% of our crude oil was produced domestically. A higher % than 3 of 4 Trump years.

By the way, the Saudi Prince is a murderer. And the next Congress will be more Democratic than this one.
WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE ME LAUGH!!!!!
The issue is... and always has been refining the stuff.

Strategically it is too important to let the market determine it.

Instead of letting OPEC set the price of crude Uncle Sam can instead.
__________________
Dumbest timeline confirmed...
elysiantraveller is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-06-2022, 01:46 AM   #25
TJDave
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller View Post
The issue is... and always has been refining the stuff.

Strategically it is too important to let the market determine it.

Instead of letting OPEC set the price of crude Uncle Sam can instead.
Markets set the price. OPEC controls supply side, somewhat.

US crude stocks are privately owned. Don’t see how the government could set prices.
__________________
All I needed in life I learned from Gary Larson.
TJDave is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-06-2022, 09:28 AM   #26
Tom
The Voice of Reason!
 
Tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,819
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJDave View Post
Markets set the price. OPEC controls supply side, somewhat.

US crude stocks are privately owned. Don’t see how the government could set prices.
By not hobbling the domestic supply.

Make no mistake, the high gas prices are EXACTLY what Dipshit Joe and the dems WANT. Them and their little dog mostpost.
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Tom is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-06-2022, 09:36 AM   #27
elysiantraveller
Registered User
 
elysiantraveller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,036
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJDave View Post
Markets set the price. OPEC controls supply side, somewhat.

US crude stocks are privately owned. Don’t see how the government could set prices.
Futures and speculation sets the price... somewhat... but still overwhelmingly tied to how much of the stuff the producing countries suck out of the ground.
__________________
Dumbest timeline confirmed...
elysiantraveller is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-06-2022, 10:40 AM   #28
xtb
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Western NY
Posts: 5,336
Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zilzal View Post
The Hubbert peak theory is based on the observation that the amount of oil under the ground in any region is finite, therefore the rate of discovery which initially increases quickly must reach a maximum and decline. In the US, oil extraction followed the discovery curve after a time lag of 32 to 35 years. The theory is named after American geophysicist M. King Hubbert, who created a method of modeling the production curve given an assumed ultimate recovery volume.

And you wonder why the price continues to increase along with the fact that the MAJOR auto companies SEE the future and are moving IN MASS, to electic and hybrid cars.

Theories on the origin of crude oil has ranged from mass vegetation die offs to marine life, no one knows for sure. There is evidence now that oil seeps up from the Earth's core and depleted oil fields are being replenished. I can remember in third grade being taught that all crude oil will be gone by the year 2000. Also was taught that year "Global Cooling" was "real" and we were entering an ice age due to pollution. Not coincidentally, it was the year of the first "Earth Day" in 1970. Fear mongering was happening then too.


Auto manufacturers are being forced to develop electric cars. Are you not aware of legislation banning the sale gasoline combustion engines? What is finite is Lithium, you know, that stuff electric car batteries are made from. And it is mostly controlled by China. And mining it is environmentally disastrous.
xtb is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-06-2022, 11:32 AM   #29
Tom
The Voice of Reason!
 
Tom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 112,819
Here is a fact.
We do not have the infrastructure to support mostly electric cars.

Some states can barely handle heat waves.
__________________
Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
Tom is offline   Reply With Quote Reply
Old 10-06-2022, 01:08 PM   #30
Inner Dirt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
Posts: 12,665
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom View Post
Here is a fact.
We do not have the infrastructure to support mostly electric cars.

Some states can barely handle heat waves.

That is because all the heat waves are now RECORD BREAKING due to CLIMATE CHANGE. Of course the definition of RECORD BREAKING has also changed.
Inner Dirt is online now   Reply With Quote Reply
Reply





Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

» Advertisement
» Current Polls
Wh deserves to be the favorite? (last 4 figures)
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1999 - 2023 -- PaceAdvantage.Com -- All Rights Reserved
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program
designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.