Current 5dimes derby odds

[WP1981]

Was just looking at them in case anyone is interested (may format funny):

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Horses Other Sports Money Line
Kentucky Derby - Winner - Churchill Downs - Louisville, KY - May 2
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Thu 4/30 101 American Pharoah wins Kentucky Derby +225
5:00PM 102 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 103 Dortmund wins Kentucky Derby +400
5:00PM 104 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 105 Carpe Diem wins Kentucky Derby +850
5:00PM 106 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 107 Mubtaahij wins Kentucky Derby +1200
5:00PM 108 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 109 Materiality wins Kentucky Derby +1400
5:00PM 110 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 111 Firing Line wins Kentucky Derby +1600
5:00PM 112 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 113 Frosted wins Kentucky Derby +1500
5:00PM 114 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 115 Upstart wins Kentucky Derby +2000
5:00PM 116 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 117 International Star wins Kentucky Derby +2500
5:00PM 118 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 119 El Kabeir wins Kentucky Derby +4000
5:00PM 120 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 121 Far Right wins Kentucky Derby +5000
5:00PM 122 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 123 Bolo wins Kentucky Derby +4500
5:00PM 124 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 125 Itsaknockout wins Kentucky Derby +5000
5:00PM 126 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 127 War Story wins Kentucky Derby +5000
5:00PM 128 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 129 Danzig Moon wins Kentucky Derby +5000
5:00PM 130 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 131 Tencendur wins Kentucky Derby +7000
5:00PM 132 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 133 One Lucky Dane wins Kentucky Derby +6000
5:00PM 134 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 135 Ocho Ocho Ocho wins Kentucky Derby +6000
5:00PM 136 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 137 Madefromlucky wins Kentucky Derby +6600
5:00PM 138 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 139 Stanford wins Kentucky Derby +7000
5:00PM 140 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 141 Mr. Z wins Kentucky Derby +6600
5:00PM 142 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 143 Keen Ice wins Kentucky Derby +6600
5:00PM 144 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 145 Bold Conquest wins Kentucky Derby +7000
5:00PM 146 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 147 Frammento wins Kentucky Derby +7000
5:00PM 148 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 149 Metaboss wins Kentucky Derby +15000
5:00PM 150 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 151 Firespike wins Kentucky Derby +15000
5:00PM 152 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 153 Toasting Master wins Kentucky Derby +15000
5:00PM 154 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
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Thu 4/30 155 Task Force Glory wins Kentucky Derby +15000
5:00PM 156 Field wins Kentucky Derby -99999
Triple Crown Races 2015 - Kentucky Derby, Preakness, Belmont
Thu 4/30 1501 A horse wins Triple Crown 2015 +675
5:00PM 1502 No Triple Crown winner

[WP1981]

They all seem awful to me but I assume they are taking some action.

Under 7-1 on a TC winner is laughable. I don't know if I'd take it at 30-1.

[SecretAgentMan]

Originally Posted by WP1981

They all seem awful to me but I assume they are taking some action.

Under 7-1 on a TC winner is laughable. I don't know if I'd take it at 30-1.

Lmao@ 7-1 for a triple crown winner.......I need at least 50-1 to even think of betting it. We haven't seen one since the 70's & they're throwing up 7-1, that's nuts!

[WP1981]

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan

Lmao@ 7-1 for a triple crown winner.......I need at least 50-1 to even think of betting it. We haven't seen one since the 70's & they're throwing up 7-1, that's nuts!

Agreed. I don't see any value. AP really going to be +220 at post time? Plus you are vulnerable to a scratch as well. Wtf?

[Some_One]

Originally Posted by SecretAgentMan

Lmao@ 7-1 for a triple crown winner.......I need at least 50-1 to even think of betting it. We haven't seen one since the 70's & they're throwing up 7-1, that's nuts!

You're getting the field for the Derby, so then it's just a parlay between the Preakness and Belmont, of course Belmont Win odds on the TC horse and the true odds are screwed up. 7-1 seems right

[RoyalHeroine]

Originally Posted by Some_One

You're getting the field for the Derby, so then it's just a parlay between the Preakness and Belmont, of course Belmont Win odds on the TC horse and the true odds are screwed up. 7-1 seems right

Not to me it doesn't.

There are so many things that can go wrong.

The fragility of the breed in the last 30+ years especially.

So 7-1 is way off and I'm sure there is little to no action on it.

[sbcaris]

If a horse won the first two legs of the Crown and they gave me 3-1 odds on that horse winning the Belmont Stakes, I still would not take it because of what happened in the last 37 years where all 12 that tried to do it FAILED.

[Some_One]

Originally Posted by RoyalHeroine

Not to me it doesn't.

There are so many things that can go wrong.

The fragility of the breed in the last 30+ years especially.

So 7-1 is way off and I'm sure there is little to no action on it.

What odds did you put on Chromie winning the Belmont last year?

[TucsonGreyhound]

I see quite a bit of value.

Good luck getting odds of 50/1 or higher on Derby Day for horses like Danzig Moon, Tencendur or Far Right.

7/1 seems fair for a Triple Crown price. If AP or Dortmund won the Derby they would be odds-on in the Preakness and you could always hedge that ticket in the Belmont.

[Some_One]

Originally Posted by sbcaris

If a horse won the first two legs of the Crown and they gave me 3-1 odds on that horse winning the Belmont Stakes, I still would not take it because of what happened in the last 37 years where all 12 that tried to do it FAILED.

Sample size issues, plus you had one losing by a nose and a couple of length or so finishes, could easily argue they have been on the wrong side of variance.

[TucsonGreyhound]

Also, if AP wins the Derby there's no way Baffert is running Dortmund back against him in either the Preakness or Belmont. Same for AP if Dortmund won.

[TucsonGreyhound]

And don't underestimate the volume of bets that 5dimes takes on these types of wagers. Their listed prices will be the closest reflections of what these horses odds will be on Derby Day (the 5dimes odds will always be a couple ticks higher) than anything you will find anywhere.

It's worth keeping an eye on, especially when they start listed the odds against for horses (all currently at -999999). This will give you an idea of who the big, sharp money knows will likely be non-factors.

[davew]

Originally Posted by TucsonGreyhound

Also, if AP wins the Derby there's no way Baffert is running Dortmund back against him in either the Preakness or Belmont. Same for AP if Dortmund won.

I would consider that a possibility if Baffert owned both horses. Since he owns neither, it would probably take an injury to eliminate either from other triple crown races.

[SecretAgentMan]

Originally Posted by TucsonGreyhound

Also, if AP wins the Derby there's no way Baffert is running Dortmund back against him in either the Preakness or Belmont. Same for AP if Dortmund won.

No way dude.......there's no way he's gonna keep Dortmund out of both the Preakness & Belmont if AP win the KD......if AP win the KD & Preakness, then I could see him keeping Dortmund out, but unless there's an injury, I think both run in the Preakness as well.

[boys at tosconova]

lol @ anybody seeing value at getting 7-1 on a triple crown winner

like a few said....most of these odds are awful.

maybe a couple will be nice, like mutabi/firing line/upstart/material..but mutabi is really the only one that i think will be lower than what they're offering, and would bet on.