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05-23-2013, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueChip@DRF
That could free up Napravnik for Code West.
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She will ride CW in the Belmont. Other jock mounts for the Belmont are Jon Court will be back up on Will Take Charge and Javier Castellano will ride Revolutionary.
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05-24-2013, 06:34 AM
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pace made the race in the Derby
if Palace Malice runs in Belmont, may setup for a sustained runner
Orb seems to have slow acceleration with long strides, added distance will help but if gets checked or pulled slightly up, race seems over
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05-24-2013, 02:39 PM
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I tend to agree with that, he seems to have one big run in him. Orbs best trait seems to be his ability to run a 48 or 49 half mile near the end of the race. This is probably very useful for the Belmont
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05-24-2013, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
if Palace Malice runs in Belmont, may setup for a sustained runner
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Why? Palice Malice is a stalker. The blistering pace he set in the KD with blinkers was an aberration and toss, and he won't be wearing them again.
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05-24-2013, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JPinMaryland
Im not sure how logical it is to run Orb here. This horse has nothing much left to prove, at least as far this spring campaign goes. Why not wait for the Travers or the fall?
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2 legs of the TC would make him a strong contender for 3yr Eclipse. Aside from Oxbow, its unlikely Orb (or Oxbow) lose that Eclipse unless another 3yr old wins the Classic IMO
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05-25-2013, 01:00 AM
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I really think if Freedom Child can get out of the gate with no problems he is gonna be tough.
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05-25-2013, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dahoss2002
I really think if Freedom Child can get out of the gate with no problems he is gonna be tough.
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I want to like him but hard to make anything of his Peter Pan.It was something crazy like 70-80% wire to wires on sloppy tracks that week.
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05-25-2013, 10:13 AM
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Will Orb be in the money at Belmont? I think it's likely, but nothing until I see the pps.
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05-25-2013, 11:50 AM
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Orb ran last year at Belmont earning a 51 Beyer finishing 22 lengths behind the winner at 3/5.
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05-25-2013, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by redshift1
Orb ran last year at Belmont earning a 51 Beyer finishing 22 lengths behind the winner at 3/5.
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I have a problem betting back a horse who races well a whole bunch of times in a row and then flops for no real reason. Orb, now that he's a famous Derby winner, will always take some 'fame' play at the windows....i'm not too keen on paying a 'fame premium' to wager on him, especially since his last start was just a flop with no real excuse. Things could change, but right now, i'm leaning against.
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05-25-2013, 02:01 PM
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Orb looked like he was going to fade out of it in the Preakness but he battled back btw horses to get 4th place.
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05-25-2013, 03:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
I have a problem betting back a horse who races well a whole bunch of times in a row and then flops for no real reason. Orb, now that he's a famous Derby winner, will always take some 'fame' play at the windows....i'm not too keen on paying a 'fame premium' to wager on him, especially since his last start was just a flop with no real excuse. Things could change, but right now, i'm leaning against.
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If all the major contenders return the single race exotics should be interesting.
A big plus would an Orb win because of the two distinct camps on his ability.
Great day at Belmont with a good card shaping up I'm betting for sure. As far as Orb it may be a win or off the board scenario and I will probably exclude him from any bets.
I guess he goes off about 2 to 1 as the favorite.
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05-25-2013, 05:30 PM
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Orb=Swale.
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05-25-2013, 06:12 PM
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I really like Orb to hit the board because he seems to be a grinding type that has an excellent pedigree for performing well at a super long route distance, but, in another post, I am beginning to sort of agree with Pandy when he stated that the best Speed fig Orb has received to date was something like a 97 or 98. In retrospect, I really believe that Orb benefited tremendously from all of that speed that was present up front in the Derby. I give Orb a heck of a lot of respect and credit as he well deserves from getting it done one way or another in five separate consecutive contests leading up to the Preakness, but, he may just be tailing off a bit at the present time.
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05-26-2013, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shemp Howard
Orb=Swale.
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Hope that doesn't mean the Belmont is his last race.
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