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Old 08-18-2022, 09:25 AM   #46
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I think this post is close to the equine version of a QAnon supporter. It's like you're willfully ignorant to the fact betmakers, who are probably just as good as the best CAW teams, were laying at 7/5. Ask them why their models are better then the average punter.
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Old 08-18-2022, 09:36 AM   #47
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Also the same state New Jersey as Freehold Raceway. Home of convicted juicer and ( my observance) tremendous board manipulator Nick Surick. Huge amounts of money was bet on his horses early. But if you watched the board carefully, the "dead" ones had lots of $$$$$ in the win pool cancelled very late.


I knew, why didn't the judges?
interesting if i read what you are saying right. sometimes the juice doesn't kick in and the trainer knows he's running a bad horse, but everyone knows when his horse takes money the juicer is usually on go. so by putting money into the pool in effect, will suck those in to tag along and bet his underpriced horse. then they take the money out of the pool and run to something else while the public money is still on a horse that has no chance?
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interesting if i read what you are saying right. sometimes the juice doesn't kick in and the trainer knows he's running a bad horse, but everyone knows when his horse takes money the juicer is usually on go. so by putting money into the pool in effect, will suck those in to tag along and bet his underpriced horse. then they take the money out of the pool and run to something else while the public money is still on a horse that has no chance?

Yes Lambo....That is exactly what I am saying.Not that the juice did not kick in but there was no juice that day given to the horse. This is the problem with juice trainers. They juice not only to win but also cash bets when the juice is omitted on any given day with any given horse. No betterr info than knowing your horse will be off the board because t is NOT being pre-raced today. The public does not know but the connections do. There is a very prominent trainer that does this regularly which is why when he has uncoupled entries, the higher paying horse wins while the big favorite is off the board.


More likely to occur in harness racing where horses race weekly.
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