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Old 08-12-2022, 09:25 PM   #151
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Obviously, they were not specific about what they were looking for.
They scope of the search was every day he was in office,

Around here, we call that fishing.
They found TS/SCI material Tom.

The type of shit you and I really don't even want to know.

He was issued a subpoena and told to hand over what he had multiple times and didn't comply.
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:43 PM   #152
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Look what they did to those poor Rosenberg's (1953)when they took nuclear weapons information home with them.
Yes, all they did was take it home because they needed some reading material.
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:54 PM   #153
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Even for Trump this is pretty record breaking pace into the "yeah I did it so what" phase of his defense.

https://twitter.com/SpiroAgnewGhost/...11397342392321
No I take it as... look at the hypocrisy. How many boxes would 33 million documents fill... I'm betting more then 15.

So once agian with Trump, it's a case of... Laws for me but not for D's.
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Old 08-12-2022, 10:08 PM   #154
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No I take it as... look at the hypocrisy. How many boxes would 33 million documents fill... I'm betting more then 15.

So once agian with Trump, it's a case of... Laws for me but not for D's.
This ain't it chief.
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Old 08-12-2022, 10:17 PM   #155
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This ain't it chief.
Oh but it is...
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Old 08-12-2022, 10:25 PM   #156
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They found TS/SCI material Tom.

The type of shit you and I really don't even want to know.

He was issued a subpoena and told to hand over what he had multiple times and didn't comply.
Come on, you have no idea what they found, only speculation from proven liars.

If this stuff was as you suggest, why did they wait? Trump left over a year and a half ago.....they just notice this "OMG!" stuff was missing?

And what they take from Melani's underware drawer? Her "For your eyes only" panties?


We shall see.

When do we hear what evidence of intent there was?
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Old 08-12-2022, 11:08 PM   #157
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Oh but it is...
It's not.

"But Obama" and "her emails" is not a legal defense committing crimes under the Espionage Act.

There is zero reason for someone to have that shit at their residence.

I'm not getting in to the wild conspiracies floating around the left because I don't care. Frankly, we're never going to find out what he really had.

Simply having them in his possession is the illegal act.

I'm mostly just sad and confused why he did not hand them over and it's come to this.
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Old 08-12-2022, 11:10 PM   #158
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Come on, you have no idea what they found, only speculation from proven liars.

If this stuff was as you suggest, why did they wait? Trump left over a year and a half ago.....they just notice this "OMG!" stuff was missing?

And what they take from Melani's underware drawer? Her "For your eyes only" panties?


We shall see.

When do we hear what evidence of intent there was?
It's in the inventory that Trump's own attorney has signed off on Tom.

There is zero reason to have that stuff in his possession.

He could have just handed it over.
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That certainly solves the mystery of how Trump got any votes.
You're dumb enough to think that was legit
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They found TS/SCI material Tom.

The type of shit you and I really don't even want to know.

He was issued a subpoena and told to hand over what he had multiple times and didn't comply.
I used to respect you a tad.

Now I know you're just a clown show.

OH OH OH he had TS/SCI MATERIAL!!!!

OH OH OH OH OH OH OH LOOK LOOK LOOK....SEE!


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Trump has you guys by the balls again.

He could have easily declassified any and all things he took with him in his few remaining seconds as POTUS

Whatcha gonna do then?


"BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT...he had TS/SCI.......I N....H I S....P O S S E S S I O N!!!!!"

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Old 08-13-2022, 12:39 AM   #164
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Trump has you guys by the balls again.

He could have easily declassified any and all things he took with him in his few remaining seconds as POTUS

Whatcha gonna do then?
That's not how this works.

Mike... he's fucked here.

There is no reason for him to have it.

It's the governments property and they asked for it back.

Had to execute a warrant to get it back.

He doesn't have the office to protect him anymore.
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Old 08-13-2022, 12:57 AM   #165
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That's not how this works.

Mike... he's fucked here.

There is no reason for him to have it.

It's the governments property and they asked for it back.

Had to execute a warrant to get it back.

He doesn't have the office to protect him anymore.
You have zero clue as does most everyone else, yet here you stand as expert once again:

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...ied-documents/

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"The president, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the president, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, told PolitiFact in 2017 that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."

Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, told us in 2017 that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information … it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."

The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from presidential executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on a president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."
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However, experts cautioned that nothing is ordinary about the current situation involving Trump. In such an unusual and high-stakes scenario, it’s hard to be too certain about how the courts would rule.

"We’re in uncharted territory on the issue of criminally prosecuting a former president over mishandling classified documents," Moss said. "There is no legal precedent to look to for guidance. It raises all sorts of constitutional implications and it is anyone’s guess how it would play out."
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