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EMD4ME · 11-26-2016, 06:25 PM

Race 6. 6 pieces of foreign substances on the track, all horses looking to save their lives avoided these things.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN A NO CONTEST.

I had no audio on track but did they say why not?

HorsemenHeist · 11-26-2016, 06:28 PM

Outrageous and the explanation won't satisfy you at all

https://twitter.com/DelMarRacing/sta...53728419393536

whisperlunch · 11-26-2016, 06:28 PM

I had the 4 and all horses had to step thru same area. They made correct call.

EasyGoer89 · 11-26-2016, 06:33 PM

773 pick 4 pool first leg

EMD4ME · 11-26-2016, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EasyGoer89

773 pick 4 pool first leg

Exactly what I was thinking.

Tom · 11-26-2016, 06:39 PM

No one saw that stuff?
Not even Trevor up in the sky??????

Note to self - Never DelMar

EasyGoer89 · 11-26-2016, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EMD4ME

Exactly what I was thinking.

The question would be is that a refund or an 'all' in the pick 4, I'm not 100 pct sure.

CincyHorseplayer · 11-26-2016, 06:48 PM

Yeah how did that much crap out there get missed?

SuperPickle · 11-26-2016, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EMD4ME

Race 6. 6 pieces of foreign substances on the track, all horses looking to save their lives avoided these things.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN A NO CONTEST.

I had no audio on track but did they say why not?

No it shouldn't have. No contests are only declared when a race can not be run due to a significant issue that dramatically affects the organic runnning of the race. Historically this only happens due to a gate malfunction affecting multiple or all horses or an accident that blocks all or most of the track. This did not meet those standards.

There was debris on the track. While horses and riders had to take evasive action no horse was pulled up and no horse had his chances greatly compromised or was given a significant advantage because of the event. Simply put it affected all the horses. The winner came from last. The runner up was significantly affected by the debris.

Simply put it doesn't meet the justification to declare the race no contest.

EMD4ME · 11-26-2016, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPickle

No it shouldn't have. No contests are only declared when a race can not be run due to a significant issue that dramatically affects the organic runnning of the race. Historically this only happens due to a gate malfunction affecting multiple or all horses or an accident that blocks all or most of the track. This did not meet those standards.

There was debris on the track. While horses and riders had to take evasive action no horse was pulled up and no horse had his chances greatly compromised or was given a significant advantage because of the event. Simply put it affected all the horses. The winner came from last. The runner up was significantly affected by the debris.

Simply put it doesn't meet the justification to declare the race no contest.

So CHRB Rule 1544 says that if most of the runners are impacted, the race can be a no contest.

You say: all runners were impacted but you're also wizard enough to know that not 1 horse was mentally scared of the surprise debris, not one jock wasn't spooked during the running, not 1 muscle wasn't tweaked the wrong way with an awkward weird step.

can you also provide me with tonight's winning powerball numbers my dear wizard ?

Fred Mertz · 11-26-2016, 09:13 PM

can you also provide me with tonight's winning powerball numbers my dear wizard ?

Ah crap. I left my ticket down stairs. The PowerBall number will be Johnny Unitas, #19.

EMD4ME · 11-26-2016, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Mertz

can you also provide me with tonight's winning powerball numbers my dear wizard ?

Ah crap. I left my ticket down stairs. The PowerBall number will be Johnny Unitas, #19.

can you send ethel up the stairs with it?

VigorsTheGrey · 11-26-2016, 11:25 PM

EMD,

Do you think Om should have not went to the front today at Del mar? I know Ring Weekend run his race but I think Om should have laid back some and let What A View be the rabbit....?

SuperPickle · 11-27-2016, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by EMD4ME

So CHRB Rule 1544 says that if most of the runners are impacted, the race can be a no contest.

You say: all runners were impacted but you're also wizard enough to know that not 1 horse was mentally scared of the surprise debris, not one jock wasn't spooked during the running, not 1 muscle wasn't tweaked the wrong way with an awkward weird step.

can you also provide me with tonight's winning powerball numbers my dear wizard ?

Again the keyword is "can." They could have but made the decision that all runners were equally impacted.

Again the debris was all over the first turn forcing all runners to run through it. Now if there was debris that only impacted some runners they make a different call but given what happened they made the right call.

They handled it right.

cj · 11-27-2016, 12:11 AM

I'm probably biased because I actually hit the exacta, but watching this one I don't see any way that was a no contest type event. I've seen it all in this game, as I'm sure many here have, and WAY worse things have been allowed to happen that didn't result in races being scratched.

I don't see how anyone could say would happened cost any of the horses a placing, and taking money away from those that actually won would be very unfair IMO. I'd say that even if I lost.