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Old 12-06-2021, 09:17 PM   #46
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I'd be interested in hearing what he was still even working him for. Was there some kind of plan besides retirement? I hate the classic for three year olds who let it all hang out through the triple crown chase, it's bad news looking for another peak that late in the season. It's a cringe, take your best shot and then retire if you go for it IMO.
He was going to be running as a 4 year old. They were looking at running in Saudi Arabia and Dubai and then throughout the year.
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Old 12-06-2021, 09:18 PM   #47
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Hear, hear. Hats off to these people, indeed!
Seriously? These are people who want to end the sport.

The guy wants to end horse racing but owns a pizza shop where they load pizza's up with sausage and pepperoni because he is a hypocrite.
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Old 12-06-2021, 09:29 PM   #48
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Seriously? These are people who want to end the sport.

The guy wants to end horse racing but owns a pizza shop where they load pizza's up with sausage and pepperoni because he is a hypocrite.
Oven is kinda hot, isn't it.
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Old 12-06-2021, 09:32 PM   #49
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Oven is kinda hot, isn't it.
Mr Ed deserves better
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Old 12-06-2021, 09:36 PM   #50
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He was going to be running as a 4 year old. They were looking at running in Saudi Arabia and Dubai and then throughout the year.
Thanks. Tough road IMO. Takes a rare horse to sustain it. Sorry for the owner and everyone involved.
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Old 12-06-2021, 09:46 PM   #51
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David deserves a ton of credit for saying this. The only way to "clean" up the sport for real is for it to happen from within.
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Old 12-07-2021, 12:21 AM   #52
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One could argue if the CHRB had dealt harshly with Baffert's past sudden horse deaths and not swept Justify's Santa Anita Derby test under the rug:

Racing might find itself in a different place than where it is today.



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yea...i dont see that. Not sure what kind of different place you mean but racings problems far exceed one individual. If they ban him will we make it to that different place?

They need to rule these drug issues with a iron fist, that would start to make a difference.
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Old 12-07-2021, 12:24 AM   #53
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David deserves a ton of credit for saying this. The only way to "clean" up the sport for real is for it to happen from within.
Ton of credit would be taking a stand before its the universal consensus.
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Old 12-07-2021, 01:46 AM   #54
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Ton of credit would be taking a stand before its the universal consensus.
David and I never ducked the subject on our podcasts. I was probably a bit harder earlier on, but that is just my personality while David is more laid back. But he certainly wasn't pro-Bob or anything. Given what happened today, nothing wrong with him amping it up a bit.
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David and I never ducked the subject on our podcasts. I was probably a bit harder earlier on, but that is just my personality while David is more laid back. But he certainly wasn't pro-Bob or anything. Given what happened today, nothing wrong with him amping it up a bit.
the voices need to be voices, so i think its great.

i see in france some trainers and vets were just busted....its not clean anywhere but at least over there it feels like they are trying.
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Ton of credit would be taking a stand before its the universal consensus.
Universal by who?
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I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned that NYRA has been way ahead of the curve on this.
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I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned that NYRA has been way ahead of the curve on this.
I gave NYRA a lot of credit in the other thread on it. You guys have been fighting Baffert in court to try and make a ban stick.
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According to CHRB data base Baffert only has 2 fatalities over the past 2 years, 2020-2021.

I am not defending him, just providing the list.

http://www.chrb.ca.gov/racing_fatalities.aspx
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Sad to hear.
He was good horse who hung out with a bad crowd.
Remember him for the athlete he was and his not connections.
R.I.P. Medina Spirit. You were strong, beautiful and one tough horse to deal with on the oval due to your perpetual determination.
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