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07-04-2022, 07:19 PM
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Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Lone Star
I was thinking about betting there yesterday and today and I don't see it on the Twin Spires menu. Is that normal?
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07-04-2022, 08:16 PM
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Location: Boston+Ocala
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Quote:
Originally Posted by plainolebill
I was thinking about betting there yesterday and today and I don't see it on the Twin Spires menu. Is that normal?
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nothing is normal in this world... they are not allowed to ship their signal out.
it saved me, i was betting on 3 solid losers there in the past 2 days.
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07-05-2022, 02:35 PM
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Texas commission has prohibited Texas tracks from exporting their signal outside of the state to avoid triggering HISA. (no inter-state commerce, no fed oversight etc..)
Whether you agree with HISA or not. This is more ridiculous than when they banned ADWs. Seriously not sure the people in charge there actually like/want racing to exist.
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Jason Martin
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AmWest Entertainment - AmWager
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07-05-2022, 05:40 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: near Lone Star Park
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorrex
Texas commission has prohibited Texas tracks from exporting their signal outside of the state to avoid triggering HISA. (no inter-state commerce, no fed oversight etc..)
Whether you agree with HISA or not. This is more ridiculous than when they banned ADWs. Seriously not sure the people in charge there actually like/want racing to exist.
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Interesting that their contention is the opposite of what it was when the ADW situation went to court. At that time, they contended that ADW's were not engaged in interstate commerce that would be protected under federal law.
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Ranch West
Equine Performance Analyst, Quick Grid Software
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07-05-2022, 06:48 PM
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Harness
If you want an excellent!!! book on harness, pick up Pandy's book called
Trotpicks
Modern Harness Handicapping Methods.
Bob
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07-06-2022, 12:02 AM
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Location: near Lone Star Park
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hracingplyr
If you want an excellent!!! book on harness, pick up Pandy's book called
Trotpicks
Modern Harness Handicapping Methods.
Bob
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What does that have to do with Lone Star? Is there a harness track within 1000 miles of Lone Star?
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Ranch West
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07-06-2022, 09:26 AM
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In the end I have no idea what the people in control there are thinking I just know the outcomes are/will be bad for the industry in the state.
At this point its if they keep this strategy its more likely than not racing is doomed in Texas.
The ADW bit is stupid enough.. I mean really who is driving more than 20-30 mins to bet on horse racing today? (other than special days). Practically no one. Without ADW in a state the size of Texas huge portions of the population and thus handle and thus purses are literally thrown away.
Its trying to protect a way of doing business everyone knew was ending 20 years ago and has been sped up significantly in the last few years.
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AmWest Entertainment - AmWager
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07-06-2022, 09:45 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorrex
Texas commission has prohibited Texas tracks from exporting their signal outside of the state to avoid triggering HISA. (no inter-state commerce, no fed oversight etc..)
Whether you agree with HISA or not. This is more ridiculous than when they banned ADWs. Seriously not sure the people in charge there actually like/want racing to exist.
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should note it only applies to thoroughbred races - Retama is able to currently export as they are running a QH meet
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07-06-2022, 10:21 AM
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Location: near Lone Star Park
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Gobbi
should note it only applies to thoroughbred races - Retama is able to currently export as they are running a QH meet
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Does HISA only apply to thoroughbred racing?
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Ranch West
Equine Performance Analyst, Quick Grid Software
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07-06-2022, 12:44 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Clarksville, AR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ranchwest
Does HISA only apply to thoroughbred racing?
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They have jurisdiction over all of it - (t'bred, harness, quarters, Arabians?), but have chosen to start implementing regulations with the thoroughbreds first.
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Tom in NW Arkansas
Past performances are no guarantee of future results. - Why isn't this disclaimer printed in the Daily Racing Form?
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07-06-2022, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al Gobbi
should note it only applies to thoroughbred races - Retama is able to currently export as they are running a QH meet
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And, based on something I saw on a different site, Lone Star IS apparently able to export the signal internationally - an HPI customer in Canada had it available to him on July 4th and he sees it currently listed in the wagering menu for this coming weekend.
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Tom in NW Arkansas
Past performances are no guarantee of future results. - Why isn't this disclaimer printed in the Daily Racing Form?
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07-06-2022, 03:02 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: near Lone Star Park
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarchCapper
And, based on something I saw on a different site, Lone Star IS apparently able to export the signal internationally - an HPI customer in Canada had it available to him on July 4th and he sees it currently listed in the wagering menu for this coming weekend.
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When Stronach got Lone Star, Texas forced the closure of my HPI account. Now they export to them. Sheesh.
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