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04-27-2021, 02:46 PM
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Will Rogers Race 2
5 Horse field
Favorites run one two
Exacta $12.00
Quinella $102.00
Ok sleuths....what the heck was bet in error by someone to cause this quinella price?
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04-27-2021, 03:05 PM
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The will pays for the $2.00, 1/5 quinella was paying only $2.00.
The bettor likely meant to bet race #1.
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04-27-2021, 03:43 PM
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Based on the quinella pools of race 1 & 3, looks like the 2nd race had about a $6000+ finger slip to create the comparatively massive pool in race 2
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04-27-2021, 05:26 PM
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Or maybe Mattress Mack was in town.
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05-02-2021, 08:37 PM
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I don't think this was an error. Not sure how they are getting down elsewhere, but pretty sure they are sacrificing $5000 in the quinella pool to distort the payoffs and collect a lot more than that from a non-pari-mutuel source.
It's not the first time it happened at Will Rogers this year. See Race 1 on April 7. $2 exacta paid $69, $2 quinella paid $650. Quinella pool $6000+ instead of the $900 or so it usually is. All the combinations with a 34-1 shot were paying 3-1.
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05-02-2021, 08:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cnollfan
I don't think this was an error. Not sure how they are getting down elsewhere, but pretty sure they are sacrificing $5000 in the quinella pool to distort the payoffs and collect a lot more than that from a non-pari-mutuel source.
It's not the first time it happened at Will Rogers this year. See Race 1 on April 7. $2 exacta paid $69, $2 quinella paid $650. Quinella pool $6000+ instead of the $900 or so it usually is. All the combinations with a 34-1 shot were paying 3-1.
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I'm not sure that would fly even once these days, let alone twice. Offshore places have very low limits on tracks like WRD last I checked and I doubt they've grown.
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05-02-2021, 09:07 PM
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back in the early to mid teens greyhound racing had a guy doing this type of thing in the straight pools they had a nick name for him GUS now i cant confirm this but the guy had outs somewhere offshore or in europe .he spoke to me through a board like this one a few times and told me he was a big time poker player anyway i always enjoyed it when we spoke an when he was betting
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05-03-2021, 01:06 PM
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Today, not seeing a option to bet the quinella at WRD. At least it is not on Twinspires.
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05-03-2021, 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jay68802
Today, not seeing a option to bet the quinella at WRD. At least it is not on Twinspires.
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Yep no quinellas today
cnoll best theory and logical
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05-04-2021, 02:01 PM
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No Quinellas again today at Will Rogers.
Last edited by jameegray1; 05-04-2021 at 02:05 PM.
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05-04-2021, 03:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomer
Yep no quinellas today
cnoll best theory and logical
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Why would Will Rogers do something to protect offshore/bookies that would possibly be getting burned by the scheme proposed? Makes no sense.
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05-04-2021, 04:51 PM
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Based on cnoll comments about the way the bets covered a 34-1 shot and the huge handle on that pool alone, it seems clear some scumbaggery was going down.
That is why I asked in the initial post for the sleuths to figure it out. Way beyond my paygrade
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