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Old 06-22-2018, 10:23 PM   #16
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Thanks for confirming the ACLU is an [extreme] left wing organization. (Oh...wait...I bet you consider them to be moderates, don't you?)
They are no more extreme about the first amendment than the gun people are about the second amendment.
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:30 PM   #17
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They are no more extreme about the first amendment than the gun people are about the second amendment.
Really? I mean really???
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:30 PM   #18
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Really? I mean really???
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Not sure what he means, but it sounds like reality has passed him by.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:28 PM   #19
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They are no more extreme about the first amendment than the gun people are about the second amendment.
Yeah, they are -- and very different too.

The Left's extremism is designed to severely restrict free speech selectively, which runs contrary to the 1st Amendment. Whereas conservatives are "extremely" fierce in protecting everyone's right to gun ownership.
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Yeah, they are -- and very different too.

The Left's extremism is designed to severely restrict free speech selectively, which runs contrary to the 1st Amendment. Whereas conservatives are "extremely" fierce in protecting everyone's right to gun ownership.
Save your breath, he won't understand this concept.
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Old 06-25-2018, 02:56 AM   #21
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It seems fairly clear to me what's happening here. Leadership would probably like the ACLU to remain a pro-First Amendment organization, but they would also like to remain in good standing with their progressive allies. Unfortunately, young progressives are increasingly hostile to free speech, which they view as synonymous with racist hate speech. Speech that impugns marginalized persons is not speech at all, in their view, but violence. This is why a student Black Lives Matter group shut down an ACLU event at the College of William & Mary last year, chanting "liberalism is white supremacy" and "the revolution will not uphold the Constitution." Campus activism is illiberal, and liberal free speech norms conflict with the broad protection of emotional comfort that the young, modern left demands.
Let's hope the young, modern left remains a minority. That flavor of stupidity, that level of cognitive dissonance and resultant irony, has no cure.
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