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04-18-2015, 05:08 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by Robert Goren
You left out the part about our soldiers coming home dead or injured for life. Iraq was never a friendly place for our soldiers even when we were paying millions of dollars to the Sunni leaders during and right after the surge.
As it turned out we don't need their oil after all. Technology has made the US independent of middle eastern oil or will shortly depend on who you talk to. Who'd thought that would happen under Obama? Not even an old lefty like me.
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Spare me. The soldiers do their job and they deserve better leadership. You Lefties think you can fight a war half ass. You can't. It's been proven over and over.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/16/middle...di-isis-damon/
OBAMA has handed half of the Middle East to a gang of thugs who practice barbarism to get what they want. All for the sake of of his ideals and legacy. As the monster grows, he plays golf and his minions ignore it.
Somebody is going to have to put these assholes down. Killing the cockroaches is much easier early on. Whether we do it now or later will decide more about how many soldiers are killed or injured. Kicking the can does nothing.
I worry what it will take to wake this country up.
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04-18-2015, 05:12 PM
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Reagan came to understand the Middle East after the Lebanon bombing, and he wanted no part of it. That's the Republican foreign policy I miss.
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04-18-2015, 05:12 PM
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http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...n-ramadi-iraq/
Not symbolic.....?
This is why OBAMA and his ilk are a blight on our country. They don't care about anything except self preservation.
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04-18-2015, 06:01 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by Hank
Once again myopic wingnuts demonstrate their unmatched ability to "overlook" obvious and indisputable facts.And whats really scary is their unshakable belief in the validity of "their" keyhole worldview.The veracity of this charge is underscored by the asinine and ill-advised Iraq invasion itself.
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You must have missed PAs video.
The list of wingnuts included MANY democrats.
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04-18-2015, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
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The 8th plague.
Where is Moses when you need him?
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04-18-2015, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
Spare me. The soldiers do their job and they deserve better leadership. You Lefties think you can fight a war half ass. You can't. It's been proven over and over.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/16/middle...di-isis-damon/
OBAMA has handed half of the Middle East to a gang of thugs who practice barbarism to get what they want. All for the sake of of his ideals and legacy. As the monster grows, he plays golf and his minions ignore it.
Somebody is going to have to put these assholes down. Killing the cockroaches is much easier early on. Whether we do it now or later will decide more about how many soldiers are killed or injured. Kicking the can does nothing.
I worry what it will take to wake this country up.
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It was Bush who signed the agreement with his puppet Iraqi government for the pull out of American troops. We left because we had done all we could do. What the right does not understand is that having troops in Iraq only makes it easier to kill Americans. ISIS or something similar(and probably worse) to it would have popped in Iraq even if we had stayed. When you occupy a country, the opposition only grows over time. If you bother to check the history books, you will see that happens 100% of the time. Almost everyone over there would stick a knife in one of our soldier's back if given half a chance. Everyone over there is in your terms, a cockroach and they are going keep on being cockroaches no matter what we do. What do you plan on doing? Killing every man, woman and child over there because that is what you are going have to do to get rid of the cockroaches. There is just no reason to make easy for the cockroaches.
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04-18-2015, 07:24 PM
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America has no clue how to fight a war.
Our troops are first class, our leadership are A-Holes.
We need to stay out of wars until our leaders learn how to fight one.
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04-18-2015, 07:55 PM
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RG & Tom , our words (myself included) go only so far. . . . .
Many years ago continuity of government was setup during the cold war, call it what you may. Long before Saddam Hussein was caught and went to trial he was marked for death, it is not like Dick Cheney talked President George W. Bush into anything. The word came down, get the bastard so Iran is an easy kill if need be. Now most might think other than that, but I assure you setups are the preferred course for world domination. While we talk of what minimum wage is or how much nicer it is elsewhere others talk of who is to die next, count on it. While we defend the Presidents actions or inaction's or what have you, remember when he leaves office his mark will be erased and the next will fall in line to secure a more stable path than this current insanity we are calling foreign affairs.
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04-18-2015, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
Long before Saddam Hussein was caught and went to trial he was marked for death, it is not like Dick Cheney talked President George W. Bush into anything. The word came down, get the bastard so Iran is an easy kill if need be. .
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The word to kill Saddam came down from who? or what group?
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04-18-2015, 08:06 PM
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Liberals don't believe in military force of any kind under any circumstances, so it's pointless to argue with them. Even one troop casualty isn't worth any number of lives it may have saved to them.
Morons, of course Bush had to have a course for withdrawing troops. The liberal American cesspool would have settled for nothing less.
Blind and stupid is forever. Bush would have never withdrawn those troops. Bush would have never allowed ISIS to flourish as Obama has done.
This whole conversation is really ridiculous.
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04-18-2015, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
The word to kill Saddam came down from who? or what group?
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"get the bastard so Iran is an easy kill if need be"
Everyone was saying it who was not elected, those who are first into the bunker. Consider what you want to be open for debate to be null and void.
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04-18-2015, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Liberals don't believe in military force of any kind under any circumstances, so it's pointless to argue with them. Even one troop casualty isn't worth any number of lives it may have saved to them.
Morons, of course Bush had to have a course for withdrawing troops. The liberal American cesspool would have settled for nothing less.
Blind and stupid is forever. Bush would have never withdrawn those troops. Bush would have never allowed ISIS to flourish as Obama has done.
This whole conversation is really ridiculous.
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So Bush's plans to draw down troops on the day he left office were a lie? Come on, get real.
Love the assumption that anyone opposed to GWB's Wilsonian Interventionism was/is a liberal. Laughable.
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04-18-2015, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fast4522
"get the bastard so Iran is an easy kill if need be"
Everyone was saying it who was not elected, those who are first into the bunker. Consider what you want to be open for debate to be null and void.
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A weaker Iraq would result in a weaker Iran? Right.
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04-18-2015, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
A weaker Iraq would result in a weaker Iran? Right.
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No, but when we kill at 100 to 1 for years who is to know when we go at 1000 to 1. If we did not need the oil I am sure we would let them pound sand at their own pace right? And you say that you think its easy?
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04-18-2015, 08:25 PM
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No, but when we kill at 100 to 1 for years who is to know when we go at 1000 to 1. If we did not need the oil I am sure we would let them pound sand at their own pace right? And you say that you think its easy?
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Honestly, I have no idea what you're saying (can't follow), so I can't respond.
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