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Originally Posted by Tom
Explains why Miami sucks.
Fire the coach and hire someone competent.
This guy is a loser.
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I agree with Tom.
This is the NFL. Performance on the field is almost always going to outweigh character issues when it comes to getting guys on the roster.
However, it is up to the coaches to keep the focus on the objective.
Incognito may be a "bully" type personality, and Martin seems to be a "victim" type personality. This is where coaching and team captains set reasonable limits.
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11-07-2013, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
I just don't understand how a 330 pound human being of Martin's stature can be bullied.
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My 75 pound hi-powered hunting lab got SMOKED by a 45 pound Bull Terrier last weekend.
Sure he got back up, hackled up, and the stare down commenced before I was able to call him off but he got wrecked.
Its not the size of the dog in the fight...
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11-08-2013, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
Sounds more like a case of harassment than bullying. If threats were made towards him or his family's life, that would be more of a criminal act.
I just don't understand how a 330 pound human being of Martin's stature can be bullied.
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Maybe because he is a pussy... and I don't mean that in a mean way. People are wired differently. Just because you are big doesn't mean you are tough. I've seen fat dudes/muscle heads who think they are tough who have no clue on how to use their hands get knocked the f out by guys who are 5 inches shorter and weigh 100 lbs less than them. I have stories for days about these type of instances.
IMO Martin did the right thing... If Martin cant hold his own and no one on the team was willing to fight for him then he had no other play. If Martin fights Incognito and gets buried than he probably ends up taking even more harassment.
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11-08-2013, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
My 75 pound hi-powered hunting lab got SMOKED by a 45 pound Bull Terrier last weekend.
Sure he got back up, hackled up, and the stare down commenced before I was able to call him off but he got wrecked.
Its not the size of the dog in the fight...
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Is your dog ok? Doesn't sound good.
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11-08-2013, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ManU918
Maybe because he is a pussy... and I don't mean that in a mean way. People are wired differently. Just because you are big doesn't mean you are tough. I've seen fat dudes/muscle heads who think they are tough who have no clue on how to use their hands get knocked the f out by guys who are 5 inches shorter and weigh 100 lbs less than them. I have stories for days about these type of instances.
IMO Martin did the right thing... If Martin cant hold his own and no one on the team was willing to fight for him then he had no other play. If Martin fights Incognito and gets buried than he probably ends up taking even more harassment.
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Incognito's harassment/bullying of Martin was verbal. If Martin breaks Incognito's
neck, Martin goes to jail.
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11-08-2013, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MONEY
Incognito's harassment/bullying of Martin was verbal. If Martin breaks Incognito's
neck, Martin goes to jail.
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Your stating the obvious because?
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11-08-2013, 10:33 AM
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ESPN is the Nancy Grace of sports.
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11-08-2013, 10:56 AM
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Lard ass Rich sexual harrasment at a golf tournament last year threw a cup of water at a chick and also used his golf club for other reasons then putting.
Guy is a scumbag...
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11-08-2013, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ManU918
Your stating the obvious because?
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well it's MUCH tougher to WALK away than to fight...even if you're right or CAN win...esp. in a work environment...in an alley...that WOULD be different.
some of you just aren't THAT bright...
I could've hurt people in a VERY serious manner...but WALKED away...
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11-08-2013, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sammy the sage
well it's MUCH tougher to WALK away than to fight...even if you're right or CAN win...esp. in a work environment...in an alley...that WOULD be different.
some of you just aren't THAT bright...
I could've hurt people in a VERY serious manner...but WALKED away...
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Not sure why your quoting me... My statement was made because Money said if Martin were to break Incognito's neck he would go to jail. The majority of the time in the United States if someone breaks a persons neck they are going to jail. Hence why I said that is an obvious statement.
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11-08-2013, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ManU918
Your stating the obvious because?
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Because you're suggesting that Martin might be a pussy and can't hold his own.
I think that Martin did the wise thing by leaving even if he could disassemble Incognito.
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11-10-2013, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
My 75 pound hi-powered hunting lab got SMOKED by a 45 pound Bull Terrier last weekend.
Sure he got back up, hackled up, and the stare down commenced before I was able to call him off but he got wrecked.
Its not the size of the dog in the fight...
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But when the big dog is as quick and vicious as the little dog.......
Hope your lab is ok. Much prefer big dogs.
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11-12-2013, 11:47 AM
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Incognito now claims to have saved texts sent to him by a smack-talking Martin. In my book, if the content is non-pc or profane, that would be HIGHLY mitigating evidence. Unfortunately, given the prevailing winds, we're probably past Incognito getting a fair hearing.
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11-12-2013, 01:25 PM
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This brings to mind the Duke lacrosse caper. Rush to judgement by the liberal media before all of the the facts are known. Richie is no choir boy, but if I am on an NFL team I don't want choir boys going into battle with me. Every commentator is trying to be more self-righteous than the ones before them. Also, Martin is one of the worst offensive lineman in the league and has no future in this game anyway. The NFL is for men only.
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11-12-2013, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryG
Every commentator is trying to be more self-righteous than the ones before them.
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Dan Patrick, not so much. Had a much more "fair and balanced" take on the situation in today's show which reflects your opinion. We won't know more until Martin speaks out.
Last edited by Ocala Mike; 11-12-2013 at 01:47 PM.
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