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Old 07-10-2018, 11:59 AM   #151
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Pretty sure only one side needs the Xanax at this point.

Even Ingraham on her show last night was saying...this isn't really going to change much considering Kavanaugh is going to probably be more like his mentor Kennedy than some right-wing fascist (she didn't use those words).
It was in reference to the joyous gravy and hero worship being tossed around here.

But yeah... Kavanaugh seems a bit like his predecessor in that he will break ranks depending on his interpretation of the law.

Most of his rulings have made some sense to me and not a fan of others... its the way the court goes...

He does have the ability to articulate his reasoning behind his actions which is important especially if you don't agree with them. Roberts' swing vote on the mandate is an example of one I hated but the method in which he drew his conclusion was logical.
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It was in reference to the joyous gravy and hero worship being tossed around here.
Just stop it already. Don't you get tired of this kind of thing?

I don't recall you once accusing mostpost of hero worship during the Obama years. He would defend every single critical thing posted about Obama here, and then some...and never had a bad word to say about the man...and he wasn't the only one.

But nary a disparaging word from you that I can recall, to any of them.

You're telling me there was no hero worship of Obama by a number of people here on off-topic?

You pretend to be Mr. Level-Headed, don't you? Mr. Voice-Of-Reason. ;-)
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:09 PM   #153
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Just stop it already. Don't you get tired of this kind of thing?

I don't recall you once accusing mostpost of hero worship during the Obama years. He would defend every single critical thing posted about Obama here, and then some...and never had a bad word to say about the man...and he wasn't the only one.

But nary a disparaging word from you that I can recall, to any of them.

You're telling me there was no hero worship of Obama by a number of people here on off-topic?

You pretend to be Mr. Level-Headed, don't you? Mr. Voice-Of-Reason. ;-)
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No it doesn't.

And this is why meaningful conversation with you guys is so difficult...

You completely lack objectivity... Joe Biden listed all the things that added to the debt and then said he was against them... You guys now decide he didn't really mean one of them...

I mean its absolutely amazing. Hell call it a lie, or just dumb Joe, or a slip in a 90 minute debate... All those would give you more credibility than this stupidity...

But I digress Mosty is the guy that types up a delusional dissertation on how Obama won the first debate despite EVERY indicator saying otherwise...

Hell, Chris Matthews thought he lost. When it comes to objectivity Matthews > Mosty...

Thats pretty sad
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That's great!

Now, did you accuse these guys of hero worship a couple of times a week? Or more than once over the 8 years?

I guess maybe you didn't want to pile on.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:17 PM   #155
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That's great!

Now, did you accuse these guys of hero worship a couple of times a week? Or more than once over the 8 years?

I guess maybe you didn't want to pile on.
Probably not... they are outnumbered about 10-1 on here.

Plus mosty is the only one I would consider delusional... HCAP for all of his trolling on the Russia thing actually wasn't pleased with a lot of what Obama did. He's a dyed in the wool socialist but he wears in with pride and can at least discuss things in a semi-objective matter.

It gets deafening around this parts with how much winning is going on. When conservatives actually don't agree with something does they don't say anything about it... aside from Clocker and myself... maybe a couple others ____ and SM.

You for instance said basically nothing critical about Trump and the NK talks until weeks after when those of us "hero-worship-bashers" were arguing it nonstop.

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Old 07-10-2018, 12:30 PM   #156
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Protesters in front of the Supreme Court building yesterday were chanting, "The pick's going down." That's all they could chant, because "the pick" had not been announced. Hundreds of people waiting around for someone, anyone, to tell them what they should think.

Reminds me of the Lil' Abner comic strip of years ago. Every once in a while, someone from Dogpatch would go into the city, and there was always a protest going on. The group protesting was called SWINE (Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything).
You got it. More and more are seeing the same story played out over and over. They're showcasing their lunacy and orchestrating their own demise.
Eventually even marginally intelligent people catch on. These people are the largest part of their base (I'm actually laughing). The left needs these people. Democratic leadership is doing a wonderful job of destroying itself from the inside out.
The more the right is entertained by these never-ending failures and show it publicly, the angrier the left becomes and the dumber they behave.
When you really think about it, they're really stupid people.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:39 PM   #157
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Probably not... they are outnumbered about 10-1 on here.
I think you forgot the little 2 notation after the 10 that indicates the number needs to be squared.
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Old 07-10-2018, 01:50 PM   #158
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You got it. More and more are seeing the same story played out over and over. They're showcasing their lunacy and orchestrating their own demise.
Eventually even marginally intelligent people catch on. These people are the largest part of their base (I'm actually laughing). The left needs these people. Democratic leadership is doing a wonderful job of destroying itself from the inside out.
The more the right is entertained by these never-ending failures and show it publicly, the angrier the left becomes and the dumber they behave.
When you really think about it, they're really stupid people.


Those were some really nice signs they had. Then they had more with Kavanaugh's name on them. I wonder what they did with all of the signs with the other 3 names on them.

Talk about a waste of money...
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The stock market is not the real world economy. Protective tariffs can be very good for corporate profits, but at the expense of the American consumer. Ask the companies that user steel and lumber as an input, or their customers, what they think about this great victory. Tariffs are taxes that eventually get passed on to consumers. By many estimates, the ultimate costs to lower earning workers could more than offset their recent tax cuts.

Despite all the rhetoric about free but fair trade, you can't have both. What is "fair" in the eyes of one person is not free.

How are his other pillars coming along, like repeal and replace ObamaCare, or build a wall and have Mexico pay for it?
Obama Care has been repealed because the heart and guts of Obama Care -- the individual and corporate mandate has been rescinded. Believe all you want, like it or not, deny all you wish but Obama Care is gone.

What can I say but to say that the House allocates money to build the Wall. They have not done so because Paul Ryan and most of the GOP members of Congress are owned by Fortune 500 globalists and the local Chambers of Commerce. Just like you, these GOP clowns put their hatred of Trump ahead of America and common sense.

You should know all this since I've been telling you such since long before Trump ran for President. If you wish to blame Trump go ahead; no one cares any more.

Since you brought it up as a Trump failure I guess you are happy that Trump hasn't built the Wall yet. You are happy that drugs are pouring in on every turn; that National Security is at risk with future terrorists and murderers piling in unfettered. I hope your children don't get hooked on opioids or get involved with MS-13 types. I really don't but since Trump is a clown, just blame him for no Wall --- but don't forget to give your own Congressman a free pass on the matter.

But if you secretly would rather have the Wall built then bother your House member and ask why is it that he/she are passing budgets that provide funds for foreign countries to build their wall but not for Trump and the USA??

Next... when Trump ends NAFTA as we know it and Mexico surrenders we will re-negotiate a bi-lateral trade deal and it will include money for Mexico to build a Wall.

But if that doesn't happen to your satisfaction, I remind you that I am the lone person on here who said that the American taxpayer should pay for The Wall, since it is our national security that is in doubt. How come you never said so as well? Oh yeah I forgot. You never offer solutions, meaningful dialogue, or even predictions. You just hide in the shadows waiting for things to play out and after all the heavy lifting is done, you shoot spit balls and criticise.

Finally... this is how all this Wall business will eventually wind up -- after the undeserving but inevitable GOP landslide win in November there will be way more Trump congressmen elected than Paul Ryan-type incompetent Republicans and the very next budget will have the proper votes and proper amount of funds to build a Wall, as promised.
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Obama Care has been repealed because the heart and guts of Obama Care -- the individual and corporate mandate has been rescinded. Believe all you want, like it or not, deny all you wish but Obama Care is gone.
Trump's promise was to repeal it and replace it with something terrific. The facts are that ObamaCare is still there, still providing subsidized health insurance to those, mostly old and ill, who are enrolled and not paying anywhere near the costs. And with the loss of support from the mandates, the government is pouring more and more of our tax money into the program to prop it up.

But you never hear about that side of the coin from our dear leaders in Washington, only the hype about the mandates being gone. Has anyone heard a word from this administration or this Congress about plans to replace it with something terrific?

But that issue and the excessive verbiage on the inanity of a wall were a nice dodge to avoid the original issue. Tariffs are great if they protect your company from foreign competition. But not so great if you are the consumer who has to pay for it through higher prices for the things that you buy.

Why will none of the tariff hawks here confront the fact that tariffs are taxes that result in higher prices for U.S. consumers? Either consumers continue to buy the imported goods, which are prices higher to recover the cost of the tariff, or they switch to U.S. products, which are now priced higher because the U.S. producers no longer have to compete at the previous, lower price levels.

The very first reaction to Trump's announcement of tariffs on Chinese steel was a general price increase by U.S. steel makers. The same steel makers that met with Trump and urged him to implement the tariffs.
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Probably not... they are outnumbered about 10-1 on here.

Plus mosty is the only one I would consider delusional... HCAP for all of his trolling on the Russia thing actually wasn't pleased with a lot of what Obama did. He's a dyed in the wool socialist but he wears in with pride and can at least discuss things in a semi-objective matter.

It gets deafening around this parts with how much winning is going on. When conservatives actually don't agree with something does they don't say anything about it... aside from Clocker and myself... maybe a couple others ____ and SM.

You for instance said basically nothing critical about Trump and the NK talks until weeks after when those of us "hero-worship-bashers" were arguing it nonstop.
Sorry, not a "probably not", DEFINITELY not is much more reality.
Outnumbered 10-1?? laughable.
Highnote, mosty, hcap, ______ and the list goes on and on....Now you say 10-1??? There would have to be at least 60-70 right wingers here to match your 10-1 number.
But you'll again say how "right" you are and you'll pat yourself non stop.....
Hell, you should count for at least 10 of those left wingers with how "right" you claim to be all the time and how much you bash Trump lol
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Sorry, not a "probably not", DEFINITELY not is much more reality.
Outnumbered 10-1?? laughable.
Highnote, mosty, hcap, ______ and the list goes on and on....Now you say 10-1??? There would have to be at least 60-70 right wingers here to match your 10-1 number.
But you'll again say how "right" you are and you'll pat yourself non stop.....
Hell, you should count for at least 10 of those left wingers with how "right" you claim to be all the time and how much you bash Trump lol
I was answering the question raised by Mike...

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Now, did you accuse these guys of hero worship a couple of times a week? Or more than once over the 8 years?
"Probably not..."

Nice to see you have to disagree with me even when you agree with me...

Again great contribution!
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I was answering the question raised by Mike...



"Probably not..."

Nice to see you have to disagree with me even when you agree with me...

Again great contribution!
Its just as good as "I am right again post".
Funny thing is many have called Trump narcissistic.....
I would imagine you were one of those as well....
Ever look in a mirror??? Pot meet Kettle??
And this is no different then the NK thread where I made a full reply to what I thought on the subject. You just chose to ignore it and say some silly chit again like ""great contribution" meaning that I hadn't replied.....
Just because you didn't read or even disagreed doesn't mean that I hadn't....lol

However, I am sure you will tell us all how you've turned down a job at "state" and everyone else is wrong.....

So Carry on with your patting self on back.....it's comical at this point lol
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Can't say I'm surprised by their reactions.
There is no doubt he is qualified, and his acceptance speech was impressive.
Now comes the arduous vetting process.

With any luck, Kavanaugh's interpretation of the law regards all people equally.
Kennedy, for the most part, based his decisions on that premise.
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