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Old 04-21-2018, 01:14 PM   #16
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Where is the great Billy Bush ?

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Old 04-21-2018, 01:20 PM   #17
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Where is the great Billy Bush ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsSzIS84ks
Hey...he asked God for forgiveness. What more do you want the poor guy to do?
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Old 04-21-2018, 01:22 PM   #18
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Being a Christian also means you are a sinner. Take me for example. There was a time in my life when I was a gold medal champion sinner. I still sin. When I sin I ask for forgiveness. One that I'm working on and have made much progress on would be using his name in vane, especially in the heat of the moment during a race. I wouldn't call myself an evangelical.

IMO Conservative Christians see Trump as an imperfect person and a champion sinner who in the course of the last two years has supported Christians and their beliefs and traditional values. He may have confessed his previous sins and asked for forgiveness and in Christianity that's the way it works. God knows what's in his heart.

So Christians aren't hypocrites at all for supporting Trump. Jesus hung around sinners all the time in an effort to change their hearts.


Matthew 7:1-3 King James Version (KJV)

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?


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The Conversion of Saul of Tarsus
by Wayne Jackson

In his popular volume, Paul: A Study in Social and Religious History, first published in 1912, Adolf Deissmann (who did so much to demonstrate the nature of Koine Greek, the language of the New Testament) once said that the true historical investigator must rescue “the paper Paul of our western libraries.” He spoke of the “Germanized, dogmatized, modernized, stilted Paul.” And one might add, the “denominationalized” Paul. False images must be stripped away from the historic Paul, the “actual Paul of ancient days” (1957, 4).

Paul is a pivotal character of history. From a relative first-century obscurity, to a modern international figure, no one, aside from Jesus Christ himself, has been so influential. An absence of some acquaintance with the name “Paul,” tells more about one’s self than ought to be known.

The Persecutor

Exactly when Paul began his bloody mission of savagery against the church of Christ is unknown with any degree of precision. The fear of him was significant, and those beyond the borders of Palestine trembled at the mention of the name of this “wolf” who stalked “the fold of the Lamb” (Acts 9:13,26; cf. 26:11).

Saul of Tarsus first appears in the biblical record as a witness to the stoning of Stephen, the first martyr to the cause of Christ—even “consenting” to his death (Acts 7:58; 9:1). Henceforth his persecution of Christians, as portrayed in the book of Acts via his own testimony, was relentless—though he thought sincerely he was doing Jehovah’s will (23:1; 26:9). Pursuing the saints even unto foreign cities (26:11), he beat, imprisoned, and had them put to death (22:19). Later he would write that “beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and made havoc of it” (Galatians 1:13). The horrible memories of these vicious attacks would linger with the sensitive apostle for the balance of his earthly days (cf. 1 Corinthians 15:9; Ephesians 3:8; 1 Timothy 1:15).

That frenzied ambition to exterminate Christianity from the face of the earth was to radically change, however. And the record of how that occurred is as amazing as it is inspiring.

The Conversion

According to Luke’s historical record (Acts 9:1ff), Saul, armed with arrest warrants for those of the Christian Way, departed from Jerusalem en route to ancient Damascus, some 140 miles to the north. As he drew near that city, a light brighter than the noonday sun suddenly engulfed him. A voice inquired: “Saul, Saul, why do you continue to persecute me?” The double use of his name suggests a reproof (cf. Matthew 23:37; Luke 10:41; 22:31). Saul responded: “Who are you, Lord?” The title “Lord” was employed at this point as a mere term of respect, for he knew not who had addressed him.
The voice was identified as Jesus of Nazareth! The stunned persecutor was instructed to enter Damascus where he would be informed as to what he “must do.” Blinded as a consequence of this miraculous vision in which Christ actually appeared to him (9:17; 1 Corinthians 15:8), Saul was led into the city.

For three agonizing days he fasted and prayed. Finally, Ananias, a messenger selected by God, arrived. He restored Saul’s sight and commanded him to “arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name” (Acts 22:16). After certain days passed, the former persecutor began to proclaim among his fellow Jews that Jesus “is the Son of God” (see Acts 9:19-22).
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There are couple of fair points in here. Namely the hypocrisy of the evangelicals and the debt/deficit. A quick search of this forum would put that on display.

The rest...

Ultimately though it's endemic to both sides. No one cares as long as their perceived side is #winning. Hypocrisy runs strong on both sides of the spectrum.
Wow, you sound really impressive...or maybe impressed with yourself? You come off as being lily white and pure as the driven snow...but before I'm convinced and pronounce you "righteous", would you mind sharing with us who you voted for in the last four presidential elections, and who you voted for in the senate races and the house races? I just want to make certain that you voted for all fiscal conservatives.
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Eventually, we will be. But where will you be when your time runs out?
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Eventually, we will be. But where will you be when your time runs out?
Hopefully...somewhere far away from you guys.
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Please point me to any indication that Trump has admitted his sins and asked for forgiveness? I hate the Clintons but at least even Slick Willie said this:
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Please point me to any indication that Trump has admitted his sins and asked for forgiveness? I hate the Clintons but at least even Slick Willie said this:
https://youtu.be/ajJMQG4Bmxo
He doesn't have to admit them to me or anyone else except God. And if he did confess to a person I don't need to hear about it.
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Predictable reactions from those who
have developed an aversion to truth.
This coming from a wing-nut who speaks lies through colorful memes???

Taxes lowered
Businesses increasing pay and bonuses and benefits
N Korea standing down

Yeah, you can focus on the stupid stuff all you want to.
FACTS are far more interesting.

Frankly, I give him props for knocking on HER door.
He did it on his own time. Stupid Billy literally left a "Stain" on the presidency.
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Hopefully...somewhere far away from you guys.
You should be very careful about what you wish for.
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Wow, you sound really impressive...or maybe impressed with yourself? You come off as being lily white and pure as the driven snow...but before I'm convinced and pronounce you "righteous", would you mind sharing with us who you voted for in the last four presidential elections, and who you voted for in the senate races and the house races? I just want to make certain that you voted for all fiscal conservatives.
Harambe, Romney, McCain, Bush.

Now that we got that out of the way I don't proclaim to have my moral compass given to me by divinity influence my vote. Evangelicals do.

It's okay Box vote for the repeated philanderer who bangs playmates and pornstars while married with a pregnant wife... my non-saved ass chose not to.

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IMO Conservative Christians see Trump as an imperfect person and a champion sinner who in the course of the last two years has supported Christians and their beliefs and traditional values. He may have confessed his previous sins and asked for forgiveness and in Christianity that's the way it works. God knows what's in his heart.

So Christians aren't hypocrites at all for supporting Trump. Jesus hung around sinners all the time in an effort to change their hearts.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking your religion or other beliefs. For me, that would be fine for the guy down the street but, personally I believe, our President should be above that.
Let's address the larger issue. Yes, we are all sinners but it is not enough to admit it and ask for forgiveness. We should strive to be better. I see no attempt by this man to improve anything but his poll numbers. How do you (not you personally) know what his policies are going to be tomorrow when he lies as easy as he breathes?
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Harambe, Romney, McCain, Bush.
Just as I figured: You ain't so righteous after all. All of them a bunch of establishment RINOs.

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Now that we got that out of the way I don't proclaim to have my moral compass given to me by divinity influence my vote. Evangelicals do.
My moral compass comes from scripture, but scripture doesn't tell me who to vote for.

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It's okay Box vote for the repeated philanderer who bangs playmates and pornstars while married with a pregnant wife... my non-saved ass chose not to.
And it's also okay to not believe politically-driven propaganda by the opposition, which my saved butt chose to do.
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Wow, you sound really impressive...or maybe impressed with yourself? You come off as being lily white and pure as the driven snow...but before I'm convinced and pronounce you "righteous", would you mind sharing with us who you voted for in the last four presidential elections, and who you voted for in the senate races and the house races? I just want to make certain that you voted for all fiscal conservatives.
What he does not understand is people here view what he has to say about the same as Mostpost.
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