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Old 11-06-2020, 03:38 PM   #1
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Let's Think About This...

Now they can run a multi state lottery Mega, PowerBall ect: biweekly for YEARS. People understand the cutoff time to play by. All numbers recorded and verified... a receipt given and video held of each sale for 30 days mind you without any reported cases of fraud in online games. Many State run them as well.

So why do we not use a similar system one for Federal Election of the President and another for State Offices.. and let the locals run the old Dibold or whatever for all other issue and such.

I know the obvious answer... would require an ID... harder to cheat... we can't have that.

Can we.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:08 AM   #2
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Now they can run a multi state lottery Mega, PowerBall ect: biweekly for YEARS. People understand the cutoff time to play by. All numbers recorded and verified... a receipt given and video held of each sale for 30 days mind you without any reported cases of fraud in online games. Many State run them as well.

So why do we not use a similar system one for Federal Election of the President and another for State Offices.. and let the locals run the old Dibold or whatever for all other issue and such.

I know the obvious answer... would require an ID... harder to cheat... we can't have that.

Can we.

Yep, we can do it and do it in a way that protects the process and the public so that we know it's 100% accurate. I'm amazed that we have people counting millions of pieces of paper in 2020.
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:20 AM   #3
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Now they can run a multi state lottery Mega, PowerBall ect: biweekly for YEARS. People understand the cutoff time to play by. All numbers recorded and verified... a receipt given and video held of each sale for 30 days mind you without any reported cases of fraud in online games. Many State run them as well.

So why do we not use a similar system one for Federal Election of the President and another for State Offices.. and let the locals run the old Dibold or whatever for all other issue and such.

I know the obvious answer... would require an ID... harder to cheat... we can't have that.

Can we.

So logical.

It would work... unless there was another agenda.

It's as if there are forces TRYING to influence the outcomes unfairly. Maybe the Russians & Chinese trying to get Trump into office just weren't very good at it, huh?
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:23 AM   #4
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There's also the problem of the Constitution and States being allowed to Administer their own elections.
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There's also the problem of the Constitution and States being allowed to Administer their own elections.
While I agree with you, the SCOTUS is responsible for protecting my rights in SC against the potential bad actions in PA.
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While I agree with you, the SCOTUS is responsible for protecting my rights in SC against the potential bad actions in PA.
There are no bad actions in PA!!

Oh, Pennsylvania, thought you meant Pace Advantage.
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Old 11-07-2020, 12:13 PM   #7
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Article I Section 4 of the US Constitution:
https://constitutionallawreporter.co...01-section-04/

Text of Article 1, Section 4:

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The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.
I read that to mean:

Each state can pass its own laws prescribing the times, places, and manner of holding its own elections.

But the Federal Government also has power to pass federal law overriding state law.

I find it interesting that the US Constitution specifically grants power over state elections to individual state legislatures (not individual state officials such as governors, attorney generals, etc.)

That, in itself, could get interesting in the event the US Supreme Court decides to hear the Trump administration's case challenging election results in Pennsylvania.

Under current Pennsylvania state law: cutoff for casting of ballots in Pennsylvania is close of polls on election day.

BUT, and to me this is where it really gets interesting --

Under The Twelfth Amendment, individual state electors aren't necessarily bound to cast their electoral college votes for the winner of the popular vote in their states.

Which leads me to post the following 'what if' scenario:

What if the Trump administration is successful with court challenges? What if Trump gets enough ballots thrown out that he is declared the winner of (enough) elections in key battleground states that he reaches 270?

Given the current environment, would state electors of those key battleground states decide to give Trump the middle finger by casting their electoral college votes for Biden and Harris?


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