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06-05-2012, 05:50 AM
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gary z
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BELMONT DAY ,A NEW WRINKLE!!
IBEW lOCAL 3 , whose workers include the maintenance wokers and
gate crew has approved its workers to go on strike Friday and
Saturday,Belmont Day
How could these negotiations not have been met since the Racino
pumped $$$ into NYRA?
While I'm sure union demands will be met, this situation happening
days before the Belmont Stakes speaks legends about
NYRA.
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06-05-2012, 07:15 AM
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If I'm not mistaken , wasn"t there a strike by maintenance workers one other Belmont Stakes day?
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06-05-2012, 07:34 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Typical union tactics - no one matters but themselves.
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06-05-2012, 09:52 AM
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Will Belmont Stakes be cancelled
According to articles in today's newspaper,the unions are threatening to strike due to lack of a contract. I am sure some kind of deal will be made,but the nonsense never stops in NY.
The one day that should be great becomes a political case. Why wasn't a contract agreed to before the Belmont Stakes ?
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06-05-2012, 09:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aaron
According to articles in today's newspaper,the unions are threatening to strike due to lack of a contract. I am sure some kind of deal will be made,but the nonsense never stops in NY.
The one day that should be great becomes a political case. Why wasn't a contract agreed to before the Belmont Stakes ?
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If they strike on Belmont Day, they should all be summarily fired.
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06-05-2012, 09:57 AM
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Heck! Give me the keys! I'll drive the truck that rakes and waters the track!
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06-05-2012, 10:15 AM
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Threads merged.
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06-05-2012, 10:53 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aaron
According to articles in today's newspaper,the unions are threatening to strike due to lack of a contract. I am sure some kind of deal will be made,but the nonsense never stops in NY.
The one day that should be great becomes a political case. Why wasn't a contract agreed to before the Belmont Stakes ?
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Probably because the union is looking to use the occasion to force them to agree unreasonable demands.
There are TWO parties involved here, three if you consider the state.
But you blame only NYRA?
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06-05-2012, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Probably because the union is looking to use the occasion to force them to agree unreasonable demands.
There are TWO parties involved here, three if you consider the state.
But you blame only NYRA?
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I didn't blame anyone. I just stated what was happening.
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06-05-2012, 01:27 PM
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They have working without a contract for over year. Like they did on everything else the previous management just sat on its hands until the slot money appeared. From The USAToday article, it is all about when certain cutbacks would take effect. You just knew the way things were going with NY racing, there would be something come up right before or during the Belmont Stakes. There is no way that NYRA didn't know the union would strike now. They should have had this settled long a go. I know the right wing will blame the union but seems to me they have already gone the extra mile by working over a year without a contract.
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06-05-2012, 01:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Probably because the union is looking to use the occasion to force them to agree unreasonable demands.
There are TWO parties involved here, three if you consider the state.
But you blame only NYRA?
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What are those unreasonable demands that the union is asking for?
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06-05-2012, 01:33 PM
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Strikes are called at opportune times, not for managements convenience.
Similarly, lockouts occur at managements discretion.
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06-05-2012, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj's dad
Strikes are called at opportune times, not for managements convenience.
Similarly, lockouts occur at managements discretion.
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Truly they never would have better leverage. It's how the game is played. The root of this involves OT pay. As reported in the Daily News today, the old union contract had the work week based on Monday through Friday, which means all Saturdays and Sundays were OT pay. NYRA wants them to shift to a Wednesday to Sunday contract (which is the schedule of almost all the workers there) and the union doesn't want to. And that's what it comes down to at the root.
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06-05-2012, 01:51 PM
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It comes down to the unions dis-respecting the racing fans - customers - who pay their salaries.
Screw the unions.
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06-05-2012, 03:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj's dad
Strikes are called at opportune times, not for managements convenience.
Similarly, lockouts occur at managements discretion.
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You are right. Far right, but here you are also correct. Unions call strikes when they will have the maximum impact. There is no point to having a strike on Monday and Tuesday. Maybe I am wrong but I read this as being a strike only on Friday and Saturday; a strike to demonstrate the unions power.
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