Fire and Fury

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by chadk66

and we believe the government

Lol true.

[Nutz and Boltz]

That goes for the current government also.

[RunForTheRoses]

Originally Posted by chadk66

according to the book

I'd be willing to believe it, I'm no Trump sycophant, it is dems style to believe in unrealistic heroes, look at how some believe Obammy walk on water. I believe that DT is a lot better than the alternative so I do support him but don't worship.

[Nutz and Boltz]

Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses

I'd be willing to believe it, I'm no Trump sycophant, it is dems style to believe in unrealistic heroes, look at how some believe Obammy walk on water. I believe that DT is a lot better than the alternative so I do support him but don't worship.

Like him or not, we should all support him. I say leave it up to the political opposition in Congress and the Senate to challenge his policies. That's what we voted them into office for, isn't it ?

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Of course. Author admits that all therein is not true. What shocking news!

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...mits-not-all-/

I am reading the book and I read the forward. What it tells me is that for some events there were conflicting accounts of what happened and the author is providing both accounts and leaving it to the reader to determine which is the most accurate. For other events there is little or no doubt.

The fact is, the major themes of the book are well documented and beyond debate.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by mostpost

I am reading the book and I read the forward. What it tells me is that for some events there were conflicting accounts of what happened and the author is providing both accounts and leaving it to the reader to determine which is the most accurate. For other events there is little or no doubt.

The fact is, the major themes of the book are well documented and beyond debate.

You are easily fooled by your inner evil attributed to Hillary

[jocko699]

Originally Posted by mostpost

The fact is, the major themes of the book are well documented and beyond debate.

Seems to me that the case is closed then

[Tom]

I saw the "author?" on one of the Sunday morning Hack Shows and he was saying he mixed up two guys with the same first name and was sorry.

He sure is sorry - a sorry exucuse of an author. What an incompetent idiot.
Almost as big of one as those think the book is real!

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by mostpost

I am reading the book and I read the forward. What it tells me is that for some events there were conflicting accounts of what happened and the author is providing both accounts and leaving it to the reader to determine which is the most accurate. For other events there is little or no doubt.

The fact is, the major themes of the book are well documented and beyond debate.

The real fact is that you are duped very easily.

Have you figured out for us, yet, how Trump never wanted to be president but yet colluded with Russia so that he could beat Hillary to become president?

[reckless]

I actually know someone in the NYC publishing world who knows Michael Wolf fairly well.

She said he cannot be trusted; he always takes liberties with sources, and he is 'absolutely horrible with facts', especially those little annoying ones that don't often fit his desired narrative. She said these things long before this book came out. I've known her for ages.

That said... one item in the book that I personally found interesting and very funny was when he wrote that Trump was lazy who doesn't like to work. No direct quote but words to that effect.

Now, as a reminder ... Michael Wolf is always identified as an book 'author' -- someone who write books.

Yet ... Wolf, an author, wrote the following books:

-- White Kids. Simon & Schuster. 1979.

-- Where We Stand: Can America Make It in the Global Race for Wealth, Health, and Happiness?. Bantam Books. 1992.

-- Burn Rate: How I Survived the Gold Rush Years on the Internet. Simon & Schuster. 1998.

-- Autumn of the Moguls: My Misadventures With the Titans, Poseurs, and Money Guys Who Mastered and Messed Up Big Media. Collins. 2003.

-- The Man Who Owns the News: Inside the Secret World of Rupert Murdoch. Broadway Books. 2008.

-- Television Is the New Television: The Unexpected Triumph of Old Media In the Digital Age. Portfolio. 2015.

-- Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House. Henry Holt and Company. 2018.

From 1979 through 2018, 39 years, Wolf has written just 7 books. That's just one book every 5-plus years or so.

Trump has a 40+ year career as a major, important business leader with real estate projects all over the world. He's built golf courses, hotels, office buildings and accomplished the greatest achievement in the political history of the USA when he became President. He earlier entered the world of network TV as an outsider and newcomer too and in his very first year had the highest rated show in TV -- and did so for 15 years!

And, yet, Michael Wolf says Donald Trump doesn't work hard and isn't very smart.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by reckless

I actually know someone in the NYC publishing world who knows Michael Wolf fairly well.

She said he cannot be trusted; he always takes liberties with sources, and he is 'absolutely horrible with facts', especially those little annoying ones that don't often fit his desired narrative. She said these things long before this book came out. I've known her for ages.

That said... one item in the book that I personally found interesting and very funny was when he wrote that Trump was lazy who doesn't like to work. No direct quote but words to that effect.

Now, as a reminder ... Michael Wolf is always identified as an book 'author' -- someone who write books.

Yet ... Wolf, an author, wrote the following books:

-- White Kids. Simon & Schuster. 1979.

-- Where We Stand: Can America Make It in the Global Race for Wealth, Health, and Happiness?. Bantam Books. 1992.

-- Burn Rate: How I Survived the Gold Rush Years on the Internet. Simon & Schuster. 1998.

-- Autumn of the Moguls: My Misadventures With the Titans, Poseurs, and Money Guys Who Mastered and Messed Up Big Media. Collins. 2003.

-- The Man Who Owns the News: Inside the Secret World of Rupert Murdoch. Broadway Books. 2008.

-- Television Is the New Television: The Unexpected Triumph of Old Media In the Digital Age. Portfolio. 2015.

-- Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House. Henry Holt and Company. 2018.

From 1979 through 2018, 39 years, Wolf has written just 7 books. That's just one book every 5-plus years or so.

Trump has a 40+ year career as a major, important business leader with real estate projects all over the world. He's built golf courses, hotels, office buildings and accomplished the greatest achievement in the political history of the USA when he became President. He earlier entered the world of network TV as an outsider and newcomer too and in his very first year had the highest rated show in TV -- and did so for 15 years!

And, yet, Michael Wolf says Donald Trump doesn't work hard and isn't very smart.

Just another "little" disconnect (no doubt among very many others) between fact and falsehood.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Nutz and Boltz

Like him or not, we should all support him. I say leave it up to the political opposition in Congress and the Senate to challenge his policies.

Leaving aside the fact that no one here has any impact on the political process, what does "support him" mean?

I "support him" as preferable to Hillary, but he is wrong on a number of important issues, and I certainly will point out when the emperor has no clothes.

[Nutz and Boltz]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Leaving aside the fact that no one here has any impact on the political process, what does "support him" mean?

I "support him" as preferable to Hillary, but he is wrong on a number of important issues, and I certainly will point out when the emperor has no clothes.

Maybe instead of "support ", I should have used the word" respect" . He is our duly elected President.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Nutz and Boltz

Maybe instead of "support ", I should have used the word" respect" . He is our duly elected President.

I respect the office. The person in the office has to earn respect on an ongoing basis. Many in the past haven't in my opinion.

[chadk66]

The minute the dude wrote Trump was lazy, all credibility went to zero. Or should have for every person in the country regardless of party affiliation.