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Old 07-11-2018, 09:24 AM   #1
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The NATO Summit is all about Optics

Waiting to see which one of our allies stands up to him today - should be some fireworks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/11/w...e-updates.html
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:13 AM   #2
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Waiting to see which one of our allies stands up to him today - should be some fireworks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/11/w...e-updates.html
Stands up to what, common sense?
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:18 AM   #3
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:21 AM   #4
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:37 AM   #5
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I didn't read anything beyond the tweet but yes he is and its the strangest thing I've ever seen.
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We have little control over Russia. We have some control over NATO.

It's not the strangest thing you've ever seen. It should make sense to you.

It does to me.

But I get it. It's Trump, so it's automatically stupid, sinister and evil all at the same time.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:49 AM   #7
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Let the euro socialists defend themselves

"The United States continues to devote more resources to the defense of Europe when the Continent’s economy, including Germany’s, are doing well and security challenges abound. This is no longer sustainable for us."
Donald Trump in letter to Angela Merkel.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:51 AM   #8
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:53 AM   #9
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There is no malpractice when it comes to that cesspool that currently is Europe.

Let them revel in their socialism. It's supposed to be a paradise over there. Why don't they just tell Trump to **** OFF, we don't need you...this is the land of socialist plenty over here...we can take care of ourselves.

**** Germany too...they're lucky to even have a country after what they put the world through not once but twice.

But I get it. It's Trump. So it's automatically wrong and bad.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:53 AM   #10
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We have little control over Russia. We have some control over NATO.

It's not the strangest thing you've ever seen. It should make sense to you.

It does to me.

But I get it. It's Trump, so it's automatically stupid, sinister and evil all at the same time.
Oh bull...

Sanctions were passed unanimously by both parties... Trump waits until after Putins election?

There's a special place in hell for Trudeau but we should invite Russia back to the G7?

How many Canadians, French, Germans, or Brits recently attacked our troops?
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:55 AM   #11
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There is no malpractice when it comes to that cesspool that currently is Europe.

Let them revel in their socialism. It's supposed to be a paradise over there. Why don't they just tell Trump to **** OFF, we don't need you...this is the land of socialist plenty over here...we can take care of ourselves.

**** Germany too...they're lucky to even have a country after what they put the world through not once but twice.

But I get it. It's Trump. So it's automatically wrong and bad.
You are completely making the tweets point.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:58 AM   #12
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This isn't your father's diplomacy. Nobody should have expected or wanted that.

I don't.

Trump was elected to shake things up. He's doing just fine.

Let me ask you something. You ever watch that interview Trump did with Oprah decades ago? You should if you haven't. You'll see him talking about all the stuff that makes your skin crawl today about him.

All this stuff isn't new. It isn't a product of some "KGB CONTROL" over him. The guy has been thinking and saying these things forever.

Get over it already.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:04 AM   #13
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This isn't your father's diplomacy. Nobody should have expected or wanted that.
You're right.

Its amateurism.

Listen to the way you are talking the "cesspool that is Europe."

Seriously what in the **** is Europe doing to you? They shooting at your soldiers? Poisoning your spies? Annexing territory?

Fill me in.

This is the global power structure that we have built and rigged to make us the sole hyperpower in the history of the world... but sure let's chuck it because cesspool and real estate guy says so.
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Let them revel in their socialism. It's supposed to be a paradise over there. Why don't they just tell Trump to **** OFF, we don't need you...this is the land of socialist plenty over here...we can take care of ourselves.
Good luck with that.

Trump is hitting home runs and the Chicken Littles are out in force telling us that Germany laying in bed with Putin while we protect them from Putin is 'nothing to see here'.

For our never Trumpers, why again did Germany close its nuclear power plants in favor of Russian oil and gas?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:08 AM   #15
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You're right.

Its amateurism.

Listen to the way you are talking the "cesspool that is Europe."

Seriously what in the **** is Europe doing to you? They shooting at your soldiers? Poisoning your spies? Annexing territory?

Fill me in.

This is the global power structure that we have built and rigged to make us the sole hyperpower in the history of the world... but sure let's chuck it because cesspool and real estate guy says so.
Do you really believe that many of us look sideways at Europe, NATO, China, trade, etc because Trump said so? You really believe that we're all duped by The Donald? So it never occurred to you that we may actually share in Trump's distrust of the motives of our friends and foes alike, and elected him in part for that very reason? Have you ever thought that the dog may actually be wagging the tail rather than the other way around?

Good grief.
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