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Old 06-28-2018, 11:32 AM   #31
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I already posted that number (54) a few days ago. Guess you missed that post. Beat you to the punch. Old news.

And yeah, his birth certificate was a pretty big issue at one point. I certainly didn't invent the news stories that were going around at that time. It was discussed everywhere.

Maybe I'll go run a search on John McCain's medical records and see where you stood on that, compared to where you stood on Hillary's. We can go back in time on a lot of stuff if you wish.
How about JustRalph's admission that you gave him the green light to start all sorts of different Obama threads, about basically the same topic...just so he could frustrate the liberal-minded here? And all this...while you were admonishing CapperAl for doing the same thing, but in a much smaller scale.

And you say that the Trump effect has been 1,000,000% WORSE? Too funny.
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:33 AM   #32
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The word unborn never appears in my initial post.


Are you sure politics isn't in your future?
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:37 AM   #33
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Sure!

Some of the basic tenants of facism:

Nationalism/Ultranationalism:

The movement seeks to create a national rebirth at the political, societal, and cultural level. A return to perceived previous greatness.

See #MAGA

Totalitarianism:

The elevation of a "strong leader" who comes from outside the existing political sphere. One who holds current institutions in little regard and largely views them as obstacles to be overcome instead of tools to be worked with.

Do I need to give examples here?

Economic Autarky:

They view themselves as a third alternative to socialism and free-market capitalism. Fascists favor a somewhat mixed economy but are of the opinion economic decisions should be made primarily based on national interest instead of private profit.

Again do I really need to provide examples?

Some basic tenants of Nazism:

Basically all of the above but the key uniting factor is one based on race and ethnic purity and not national identity. The state was considered secondary to the unification of a peoples based on ethnic lines. Nazis were heavily influenced by eugenics and used race as the tool for unification.

Similar but very different... there is a very big difference between Franco/Mussolini and Hitler.

I could add the likes of Pinochet and some other Latin American's but they didn't run on the "national rebirth" mantra of Trump and the aforementioned fascists.
Where does Fascism fit in? All three?
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:41 AM   #34
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I am a pro choice Republican. I do feel abortion should be used as a last resort. I have no religious beliefs to affect my judgement. My view is based on the fact nothing good can come out of forcing a child to be born to a woman who does not want it. I am pretty sure if abortion was outlawed birth defects from poor prenatal care would rise a significant amount. Being pregnant for 9 months looks like a rough road to me and having that forced on you if you didn't want it could produce bad outcomes in many ways.
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How about JustRalph's admission that you gave him the green light to start all sorts of different Obama threads, about basically the same topic...just so he could frustrate the liberal-minded here? And all this...while you were admonishing CapperAl for doing the same thing, but in a much smaller scale.

And you say that the Trump effect has been 1,000,000% WORSE? Too funny.
He didn't start all sort of threads ABOUT BASICALLY THE SAME TOPIC. Stop with your fabrications. There were MULTIPLE topics under the Obama umbrella, as there is with every President.

Yeah, that's the same thing as writing the same EXACT 4 or 5 words, all in HUGE BOLD LETTERS, in multiple threads (not started by Capper Al), over and over and over again, even when asked politely to stop.

I can see that. Sure. You're right.

You're always right thaskalos. What was I thinking?
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I am a pro choice Republican. I do feel abortion should be used as a last resort. I have no religious beliefs to affect my judgement. My view is based on the fact nothing good can come out of forcing a child to be born to a woman who does not want it. I am pretty sure if abortion was outlawed birth defects from poor prenatal care would rise a significant amount. Being pregnant for 9 months looks like a rough road to me and having that forced on you if you didn't want it could produce bad outcomes in many ways.
Also, nothing good can come for the human fetus in the womb who was brutally murdered.
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He didn't start all sort of threads ABOUT BASICALLY THE SAME TOPIC. Stop with your fabrications. There were MULTIPLE topics under the Obama umbrella, as there is with every President.
MULTIPLE?

JustRalph must have started 20 Obama threads in a span of a couple weeks. Was Obama really that "interesting"?
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Where does Fascism fit in? All three?
Yes.
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:53 AM   #39
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They annihilated George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. Prior to Trump, these guys were the most defecated-upon duo in recent DC history. The media destroyed them. Darth Vadar + DUMBO. That was the takeaway from the media and far-left liberals (and not so far left as well).

Now it's 1,000,000x worse with Trump. He's a Nazi (this is said by Holocaust Deniers - every one), he's a racist, he's an idiot, he's not wealthy, he's not successful, he pees on women, he watches women pee on each other, he sucks Putin's dick, and on and on and on.

Add to that the unconditional support of illegal immigrants. They want them to stream across the borders unfettered. It doesn't matter that many of them don't speak the language, won't be able to get decent employment because of that fact, and thus will add much strain to an already overburdened public assistance system.

Their kids don't speak English either...again, for the most part...but they want them to pour into the already overburdened and underfunded public school systems, where it's already very difficult to get a quality education.

Next, they want abortion to be thought of as one would think about ordering a Big Mac at the drive through...no big deal...quick and easy solution...don't worry about anything...there is no life inside of you until it pops out...and even then, if it pops out a little and is still alive, we can legally kill it...partial birth abortions...no big deal...they will fight until their dying breath to protect every single aspect of abortion, at any point in the pregnancy timeline...because to give anything away, to them, is tantamount to banning abortion altogether.

And please keep in mind, what is written above is coming from someone (ME) who DOES NOT WANT to see abortion banned. But who DOES want to see the attitude towards abortion CHANGED from where the far-left wants and NEEDS it to be.

Further on down the list, they want to end people's careers if they address a colleague with the wrong personal pronoun. You so much as look at someone the wrong way who happens to be a member of a "protected class," you risk an HR battle and the possible end of your career.

Welcome to the new & improved Amerika.

These aren't reasonable people. Never have been.

But now they're afraid, because Trump is still here. He was supposed to be gone long ago, but he's still here. And now another Supreme Court nomination is coming up, and they're really frightened. You can see it on TV. You can see it in the streets. Totally unhinged at the moment.

But they brought this all on themselves. Donald J. Trump is a direct result of the constant drumbeat of liberal talking points drilled into our heads every moment of every day via TV, Movies, books, newspapers, politicians, teachers...you name it.

The United States has NEVER been a far-left liberal country, and still isn't, but the US has ALWAYS been a reasonable country. You are witnessing not a WHITELASH, as a semi-famous far-left liberal once put it, but a BACKLASH from the reasonable (majority) in the USA.

And I for one, hope it continues for a long time to come.
Good rant for sure.
But why isnt my version about abortion emboldened in red large print.
All the rest passes muster.
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MULTIPLE?

JustRalph must have started 20 Obama threads in a span of a couple weeks. Was Obama really that "interesting"?
Yes.Nothing so interesting til the Donald came to town.
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MULTIPLE?

JustRalph must have started 20 Obama threads in a span of a couple weeks. Was Obama really that "interesting"?
So he started 300 threads on Obama all about the same topic. Which one?

300 threads about the birth certificate? The economy? Race relations? The police?

Which topic did he focus in on. Should be quite memorable since it was "basically the same topic."

Or is it because it was about Obama, that means it's basically the same topic.

Unlike hcap, with his daily posts about Trump and the pending doom that is closing in on him in the form of Mueller. You see me banning hcap over that? Why do you think I let him keep posting about "basically the same topic?"

Is it because hcap is a conservative and I just love to favor conservatives?

Or how about Fantasic Dan. I know he posts about such a diverse range of topics...do I ban him? Why not? He's another hard right conservative?

How about mostpost here on off-topic? He's always writing about all sorts of stuff, right? Never gets in the face of people or calls them names, right?

He wasn't banned, I guess again, because he's a Republican and a conservative.

You sure do have me pegged. I'm so embarrassed.
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I am a pro choice Republican. I do feel abortion should be used as a last resort. I have no religious beliefs to affect my judgement. My view is based on the fact nothing good can come out of forcing a child to be born to a woman who does not want it. I am pretty sure if abortion was outlawed birth defects from poor prenatal care would rise a significant amount. Being pregnant for 9 months looks like a rough road to me and having that forced on you if you didn't want it could produce bad outcomes in many ways.
Is abortion really a "last resort" when the pregnant woman says that she "doesn't want" the baby? As I said earlier...this isn't an easy problem to solve. On the one hand, we don't want abortions to be just handed out to whomever asks for them...but on the other, we acknowledge that "nothing good" can come out of forcing a woman to give birth to an unwanted child.

No easy answer there...IMO.
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On the one hand, we don't want abortions to be just handed out to whomever asks for them...
On the contrary. That's EXACTLY what the far-left wing of the Democratic party DEMANDS. And that's what I'm writing about.
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On the contrary. That's EXACTLY what the far-left wing of the Democratic party DEMANDS. And that's what I'm writing about.
Which begs the inevitable question:

What, in your mind, qualifies as a legitimate reason for an abortion?
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And you say that the Trump effect has been 1,000,000% WORSE? Too funny.

Maybe not a million percent more but quite a bit. Outside of PA it is pretty obvious to me. I know some "young" for retirees people in their 50's that are so obsessed with their hatred of Trump they are consumed by it. I have a long time friend back in California retired, in his early 50's who never votes but follows politics, he is consumed with Trump hatred. Most times when we talk on the phone I get to hear the latest anti-Trump news he dug up somewhere in the back corner of the internet, down to the fact that Trump pulled a little girl's hair in the 3rd grade. While he knows every Trump activity and story known to man, he knows nothing of what has gone on in his own state, even things that could effect him directly, like ballot initiatives on gun regulation and the state splitting in thirds.
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