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10-29-2016, 07:59 PM
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#106
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what an easy game.
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here is how the winner of gg r9 ststs looked
$1 return =$3.56
% of pool bet = 27%
estimated $1 return = $3.65
play was a .98 underlay (1.00) is breakeven
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10-29-2016, 08:22 PM
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#107
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what an easy game.
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so far 10 posted races, $10 bet, returned $10.78 for a 1.08 roi
, 4 winners
however I down loaded 15 races today 9 won $1 returned $26.27 for a 1.75 roi
for the last few days, I was attempting to see how dutch betting results compared to normalized proportional odds bet. Not only did I find they are similar, I also came upon a method of tote board analysis that looks good enough to follow up on.
Using this method, I selected the data base containing the 10-12-2016 races.
18 races, 7 wins a 1.40 roi
todays plays are based on that same method
currently I'm playing 3 horses per race, however i'll review what happens when I bet at least those horses whose probability approach say 50% minimum
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10-29-2016, 08:36 PM
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#108
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what an easy game.
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dd r5
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10-29-2016, 08:47 PM
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#109
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what an easy game.
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that last bet represented 29% of the pool and lost.
there were two others that could have qualified. the total probability of those five amounted to 47%
the winner #6 was on of them
bet size on that horse would be .14 normalized to .14/.47 = .30
the $1 track payout on the #6 was $7.2
7.2 x .30 = $2.16. the total normalized bet always=1.00
therefore a play on those 5 horses in a 9 horse field returned a 2.16 roi
the expected roi was 1/.47 = 2.12
got it?
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Last edited by formula_2002; 10-29-2016 at 08:48 PM.
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10-29-2016, 09:04 PM
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#110
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what an easy game.
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i'M CLOSING OUT THIS THREAD AND WILL START ANOTHER THREAD, SOMETHING LIKE "TOTE BOARD ANALYSIS USING MULTI NORMALIZED PROPORTIONAL ODD BET SIZES.
HERE ARE THE FINAL RESULTS FOR THIS THREADS COMPARISON BET SIZE PERFORMANCE.
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Last edited by formula_2002; 10-29-2016 at 09:05 PM.
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10-30-2016, 07:26 AM
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what an easy game.
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testing new look
Code:
"SAF Fairview
Race
2
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7:25
MTP
2
$1 Exacta Pool
$3,106 "
PGNO % bet
1 0.35
2 0.23
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10-30-2016, 07:46 AM
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#112
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what an easy game.
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testing new look
#11,the 3rd choice won. bet size would have been .32
it paid $4.90 on the dollar
.32 x 4.90 = 1.58 return a $1 bet
the top three represented 61% of the pool
therefore,, min $1 ret = 1/.61= 1.63
actual return/expected return = 1.58/1.61 = .98, an underlay, but still beat the track out (say 17%) by about 118%
ps the posted program numbers are incorrect, it should read 10 and 4. I've corrected that
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Last edited by formula_2002; 10-30-2016 at 07:48 AM.
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10-30-2016, 08:01 AM
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what an easy game.
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Code:
field size 13
"SAF Fairview
Race
3
Post
8:00
MTP
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$1 Exacta Pool
$4,101 "
PGNO % bet
5 0.42
13 0.24
2 0.34
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10-30-2016, 08:20 AM
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what an easy game.
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testing new look
#2,the 3rd choice won. bet size was.34
it paid $6.30 on the dollar
.34 x 6.30 = 2.14 return a $1 bet
the top three represented 22% of the pool
therefore,, min $1 ret = 1/.22= 4.54
actual return/expected return = 2.14/4.54 = .47, an underlay
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10-30-2016, 08:49 AM
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what an easy game.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
testing new look
#2,the 3rd choice won. bet size was.34
it paid $6.30 on the dollar
.34 x 6.30 = 2.14 return a $1 bet
the top three represented 22% of the pool
therefore,, min $1 ret = 1/.22= 4.54
actual return/expected return = 2.14/4.54 = .47, an underlay
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I need to look at the final track odds to determine how much my plays were an over lay or under lay. I'll include that information my results file, the following day.
in this case, based on the appox final odds, the play covered 37% of the true pool. that would make the min $1 return about $2.67
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10-30-2016, 10:38 AM
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what an easy game.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
here is how the winner of gg r9 ststs looked
$1 return =$3.56
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when compared to the final odds, this was a very large overlay.
a $1 return was $3.56
to break even it had to be $2.75
therefore it was a 3.56/2.75 = 129% overlay
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11-04-2016, 03:01 PM
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what an easy game.
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Code:
"SANTA ANITA PARK
Race
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3:00
MTP
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$1 Exacta Pool
$354,786 "
RANK 1 2 3
PGNO 12 4 2
BET SIZE 0.72 0.15 0.13
BET SUM 0.72 0.87 1.00
NUMBER OF BETTING INTEREST 12
ESTIMATED BET % 26.21%
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