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Old 11-19-2021, 04:40 PM   #1
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Kentucky Lawmaker Proposes Penny Breakage

Bloodhorse.com | Frank Angst | 11-19-2021
Kentucky Lawmaker: It's Time to Support Horseplayers:
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...t-horseplayers

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Saying Kentucky already has taken care of breeders, owners, and tracks, a prominent lawmaker voiced support of lowering the breakage rate for wagers on state races, a move that would increase payouts to winning horseplayers.

Rep. Adam Koenig, co-chairman of the Pari-Mutuel Wagering Taxation Task Force, expressed support for lowering breakage during a Nov. 19 meeting of the group in Frankfort. The task force was formed after legislation protecting historical horse racing games as pari-mutuel wagering was signed into law in February 2021.

Friday marked the task force's fifth and final hearing on tax and pricing issues related to HHR and pari-mutuel wagering.

"In the last few months, we've heard there's really three things we need to make horse racing go. We need the breeders and the owners, we need the tracks, and we need bettors. We've taken care of the first two groups," Koenig said of the money from HHR that has benefited Kentucky owners, breeders, and tracks. "As far as I'm concerned we're going to take care of the last group. And this is one of the possible ways—and I think—the easiest and best way to do it."


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Old 11-19-2021, 04:44 PM   #2
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Very good.
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Old 11-19-2021, 06:07 PM   #3
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Wow, racing is evolving almost as fast as dinosaurs.
They must have upgraded their computers.


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Old 11-19-2021, 06:34 PM   #4
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Wow, racing is evolving almost as fast as dinosaurs.
They must have upgraded their computers.



They went to the moon with this!! We can't get penny breakage now? lol
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Old 11-19-2021, 06:48 PM   #5
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The mutuels unions don't have the clout they used to have.
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Old 11-19-2021, 09:20 PM   #6
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Thanks, Jeff. As always.
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Been hoping for this my whole horse racing life.
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Something like this would really help the WPS bettor and make those pools more attractive relative to exotics.
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Something like this would really help the WPS bettor and make those pools more attractive relative to exotics.
And more CHURN

Seems like racing has abandoned any strategy to increase churn
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Old 11-20-2021, 11:47 AM   #10
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It’s way too many points given to bettors for it to realistically happen. Not that it shouldn’t, but it just won’t
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Old 11-20-2021, 11:58 AM   #11
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they make too much on breakage to be happy with this
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Old 11-20-2021, 01:38 PM   #12
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https://racingthinktank.com/reports/...penny-breakage
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Old 11-20-2021, 02:28 PM   #13
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And more CHURN

Seems like racing has abandoned any strategy to increase churn
You mean like increasing the number and type of Pick-Ns and the preponderance of wagering advice pointed towards horizontals vs. win betting and other verticals?
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Old 11-20-2021, 02:52 PM   #14
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A rising tide lifts all boats... the whole industry makes me roll my eyes. It's like they don't mind pissing into the fan.

I would love for them to bring this sport out of the industrial era they all seem to think we're still in.

I love Kentucky! Make it happen

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