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11-17-2021, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Dave, you posted somewhere here a few years ago, a simple method where you used I think 2 SR for each horse, depending on how many races the horse had run. I haven't been able to find it again (but I did find some very interesting threads, like How to Improve Your Game).
Does that ring a bell?
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Vaguely.
Are you looking for the rules?
They're in NewPace, which I am pretty sure you have.
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11-17-2021, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Dave, you posted somewhere here a few years ago, a simple method where you used I think 2 SR for each horse, depending on how many races the horse had run. I haven't been able to find it again (but I did find some very interesting threads, like How to Improve Your Game).
Does that ring a bell?
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Can you share where this thread is? How to Improve Your Game.
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11-17-2021, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Vaguely.
Are you looking for the rules?
They're in NewPace, which I am pretty sure you have.
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Duh. I bet that's where I saw it. No wonder I can't find it here/
TY
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11-17-2021, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ranchwest
Can you share where this thread is? How to Improve Your Game.
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My bad, it is The Last Piece Form
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ighlight=piece
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11-17-2021, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Duh. I bet that's where I saw it. No wonder I can't find it here.
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I did find it here:
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...t=speed+figure
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11-17-2021, 06:54 PM
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11-17-2021, 06:56 PM
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Tom,
There's a lot of content in those old threads.
I'm not sure which specific post gave you what you were looking for.
Please clue me in.
IOW, I don't really know what you are searching for.
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11-17-2021, 07:37 PM
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[QUOTE=Dave Schwartz;2766737]There's actually another approach I really like - the 90% Confidence Interval approach that I shared in NewPace.
ONE OF THE BEST THINGS you ever included in New Pace
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11-17-2021, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Tom,
There's a lot of content in those old threads.
I'm not sure which specific post gave you what you were looking for.
Please clue me in.
IOW, I don't really know what you are searching for.
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My quick 2 cents worth...
1. Forget the par time for the class. This race may well be for horses 2 levels up or down from "par."
2. For each horse in the race, count how many pacelines he has.
10 lines, take the 3rd best, 4th worst
8-9 lines, take the 2nd best, 3rd worst
5-7 lines, take the best, 2nd worst
2-4 throw out worst, average rest
1 well, that's what you've got
Average the selected speed ratings.
3. Now you have a speed rating for each horse.
4. Rank the field from top to bottom.
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11-17-2021, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Figure
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Thanks.
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11-17-2021, 10:03 PM
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My quick 2 cents worth...
1. Forget the par time for the class. This race may well be for horses 2 levels up or down from "par."
2. For each horse in the race, count how many pacelines he has.
10 lines, take the 3rd best, 4th worst
8-9 lines, take the 2nd best, 3rd worst
5-7 lines, take the best, 2nd worst
2-4 throw out worst, average rest
1 well, that's what you've got
Average the selected speed ratings.
3. Now you have a speed rating for each horse.
4. Rank the field from top to bottom.
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YES!
That's it!
This was a slight modification from the book, done from a bit of study.
It is not so good working with individual horses, yet, for the purpose of a "race par" it works pretty well.
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11-17-2021, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Figure
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Speed Fig,
THANK YOU!
I'd forgotten that video.
I really need to do more of those.
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11-17-2021, 10:57 PM
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Dave, these videos are very good! hard to believe that the video is 9 years old!
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11-18-2021, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Figure
Dave, these videos are very good! hard to believe that the video is 9 years old!
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Yes.
And how many years has it been since we met?
I'm thinking it was about 2005?
(Las Vegas, we were staying at Caesar's.)
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11-18-2021, 08:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
Speed Fig,
THANK YOU!
I'd forgotten that video.
I really need to do more of those.
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I too enjoyed those videos. Good stuff and food for thought. I would like to see you do more of them.
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