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11-04-2021, 08:29 PM
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#31
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: JCapper Platinum: Kind of like Deep Blue... but for horses.
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Originally Posted by Zydeco
Me at McDonalds tomorrow..."I will have a Big Mac Meal..and Mosty will pay for it.." Benefits me and everyone that works at my local McDonalds.
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Imagine for the sake of argument:
You have a friend who agrees to pay for your lunch everyday.
You like not having to pay for lunch.
In fact you like it so much that a few months later you ask him to pay for breakfast and dinner too.
And he agrees.
A few months later he agrees to pay not just for your breakfast, lunch, and dinner - but breakfast, lunch, and dinner for everybody on your block.
Things are great. Everybody in your neighborhood is getting free food. And business at the local restaurants are booming.
A few months later you ask him to pay your rent.
And he agrees.
And within a year or two he's not just paying for your breakfast, lunch, dinner, and rent - he's sending out monthly checks to pay for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and rent for everybody on your block.
And for some reason - the people on your block start telling friends who don't live on your block they should move into your neighborhood.
And many do just that.
And as they show up your friend keeps adding them to the list of people he sends checks to every month.
A few years later you ask him to pay for your health insurance.
And to your amazement he agrees.
And everybody on your block starts asking him to pay for their health insurance too.
And to everybody's amazement he agrees.
And that causes even more people to move into your neighborhood.
Fast forward a year or two.
Everybody you know has grown used to the idea of free food, a free place to live, and free health insurance.
But for some strange reason about half the people you know have quit their jobs.
And those who are still working, almost half find themselves 'mailing it in' every day.
After all, why push yourself when everything is free?
Lately, you can't help but notice many of the people moving into your neighborhood don't push themselves at all. Their daily routine involves going to the liquor store, getting drunk, staggering to the restaurant for a free meal, getting really drunk - and passing out on the sidewalk or in the alley next to your house.
And for some strange reason you can't help but notice many of the people who do go to work and who do have the drive to push themselves each day have been moving away to other neighborhoods - places that don't have drunks going to the bathroom and passing out on the sidewalks in front of their homes.
Fast forward a few more years.
Everything is great. (Or was.)
Until one day when your friend announces he has run out of money.
-jp
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Last edited by Jeff P; 11-04-2021 at 08:33 PM.
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11-04-2021, 08:55 PM
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#32
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,438
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff P
Imagine for the sake of argument:
You have a friend who agrees to pay for your lunch everyday.
You like not having to pay for lunch.
In fact you like it so much that a few months later you ask him to pay for breakfast and dinner too.
And he agrees.
A few months later he agrees to pay not just for your breakfast, lunch, and dinner - but breakfast, lunch, and dinner for everybody on your block.
Things are great. Everybody in your neighborhood is getting free food. And business at the local restaurants are booming.
A few months later you ask him to pay your rent.
And he agrees.
And within a year or two he's not just paying for your breakfast, lunch, dinner, and rent - he's sending out monthly checks to pay for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and rent for everybody on your block.
And for some reason - the people on your block start telling friends who don't live on your block they should move into your neighborhood.
And many do just that.
And as they show up your friend keeps adding them to the list of people he sends checks to every month.
A few years later you ask him to pay for your health insurance.
And to your amazement he agrees.
And everybody on your block starts asking him to pay for their health insurance too.
And to everybody's amazement he agrees.
And that causes even more people to move into your neighborhood.
Fast forward a year or two.
Everybody you know has grown used to the idea of free food, a free place to live, and free health insurance.
But for some strange reason about half the people you know have quit their jobs.
And those who are still working, almost half find themselves 'mailing it in' every day.
After all, why push yourself when everything is free?
Lately, you can't help but notice many of the people moving into your neighborhood don't push themselves at all. Their daily routine involves going to the liquor store, getting drunk, staggering to the restaurant for a free meal, getting really drunk - and passing out on the sidewalk or in the alley next to your house.
And for some strange reason you can't help but notice many of the people who do go to work and who do have the drive to push themselves each day have been moving away to other neighborhoods - places that don't have drunks going to the bathroom and passing out on the sidewalks in front of their homes.
Fast forward a few more years.
Everything is great. (Or was.)
Until one day when your friend announces he has run out of money.
-jp
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But all I asked for was a free meal... to be paid my Mosty....damn the bad luck! Sorry Mosty..Good post Jeff P!
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11-05-2021, 12:39 AM
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#33
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 4,900
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11-05-2021, 02:54 PM
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#34
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,208
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I wouldn't mind if we had to pay a little extra to help American citizens, but the Democrats take it five steps too far by wanting to pay illegal immigrants.
To me, it seems like Democrats are trying to get a mass wave of illegal immigration in America, pay them off with money and other services, and subsequently buy their Democrat vote forever.
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11-05-2021, 03:16 PM
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#35
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Near Lexington, KY
Posts: 3,246
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Originally Posted by Karakorum Kabbage
Wow, and why did VA go all kinds of blue when Trump was Prez? Repubs lost control of the state leg and congressional seats. Biden's numbers are bad there, but not as bad as Trump's. I guess the Trump agenda was even more disliked
Also, VA is not totally red today, the dems still control the state senate.
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Trump, Trump, Trump.
I hope you and your Party keep this up. You clowns never get it.
This "Red" thing is happening all over the Country...not just Virginia. Just keep carrying those buckets. Everything is OK.
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Just when you least expect it...just what you least expect-The Pet Shop Boys.
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11-05-2021, 03:19 PM
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Near Lexington, KY
Posts: 3,246
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
As Sherman Potter would say, “Horsepuckey”
The reforms in Build Back Better are supported by an overwhelming majority of Americans.
https://www.nationalmemo.com/new-pol...ck-better-bill
80% support giving Medicare power to negotiate drug prices.
75% support raising taxes on the rich and corporations.
82% support Medicare coverage for dental, hearing and vision.
84% support lower health insurance premiums.
77% support making child care more affordable.
72% support support creating clean energy jobs.
70% support guaranteeing paid family and medical leave.
You are the one who is out of touch.
But, don’t misunderstand me. Republicans are not the only problem. So called Centrist or moderate Democrats like Manchineel and Sinema are also a problem. As is Biden’s naive belief that Republicans will negotiate in good faith.
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It's a shame that the overwhelming Majority of the Country doesn't think like you in believing that Centrist and Moderate Democrats are the problem. How does it feel knowing Most of America (many on your side) don't agree with you?
Signed,
"dummy"
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Just when you least expect it...just what you least expect-The Pet Shop Boys.
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11-05-2021, 06:46 PM
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#37
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 1,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I wouldn't mind if we had to pay a little extra to help American citizens, but the Democrats take it five steps too far by wanting to pay illegal immigrants.
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This describes the relationship between Democrats and Americans in so many ways.
Americans will agree with the general Democratic agenda on pretty much everything. As long as it comes with some level of moderation.
What we have reached now is a fever pitch of full retard on the Democratic side. This current spending bill has turned into a pretty entertaining comedy. A president who has for weeks tried to sell his own party on it but can't. A congress who now knows that the public doesn't want it but pushes on and looks desperate doing it. The moderates hiding in the corner knowing it's political suicide, and the full retard faction of the party demanding more spending.
Republicans (finally) figuring out that the best thing todo is clear the decks and let the democrats punch holes in the ship.
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11-05-2021, 09:22 PM
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#39
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Near Lexington, KY
Posts: 3,246
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davew
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If we are lucky, these Idiots will ride this Horse right off the Cliff.
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Just when you least expect it...just what you least expect-The Pet Shop Boys.
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11-06-2021, 09:56 AM
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#40
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Beaverdam Virginia
Posts: 12,665
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davew
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Isn't it amazing how it is alright to label and demean white people. I had to look up what a Karen was but I had an idea.
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11-06-2021, 10:58 AM
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#41
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Grinding at a Poker Table
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,902
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff P
Imagine for the sake of argument:
You have a friend who agrees to pay for your lunch everyday.
You like not having to pay for lunch.
In fact you like it so much that a few months later you ask him to pay for breakfast and dinner too.
And he agrees.
A few months later he agrees to pay not just for your breakfast, lunch, and dinner - but breakfast, lunch, and dinner for everybody on your block.
Things are great. Everybody in your neighborhood is getting free food. And business at the local restaurants are booming.
A few months later you ask him to pay your rent.
And he agrees.
And within a year or two he's not just paying for your breakfast, lunch, dinner, and rent - he's sending out monthly checks to pay for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and rent for everybody on your block.
And for some reason - the people on your block start telling friends who don't live on your block they should move into your neighborhood.
And many do just that.
And as they show up your friend keeps adding them to the list of people he sends checks to every month.
A few years later you ask him to pay for your health insurance.
And to your amazement he agrees.
And everybody on your block starts asking him to pay for their health insurance too.
And to everybody's amazement he agrees.
And that causes even more people to move into your neighborhood.
Fast forward a year or two.
Everybody you know has grown used to the idea of free food, a free place to live, and free health insurance.
But for some strange reason about half the people you know have quit their jobs.
And those who are still working, almost half find themselves 'mailing it in' every day.
After all, why push yourself when everything is free?
Lately, you can't help but notice many of the people moving into your neighborhood don't push themselves at all. Their daily routine involves going to the liquor store, getting drunk, staggering to the restaurant for a free meal, getting really drunk - and passing out on the sidewalk or in the alley next to your house.
And for some strange reason you can't help but notice many of the people who do go to work and who do have the drive to push themselves each day have been moving away to other neighborhoods - places that don't have drunks going to the bathroom and passing out on the sidewalks in front of their homes.
Fast forward a few more years.
Everything is great. (Or was.)
Until one day when your friend announces he has run out of money.
-jp
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Running out of (your) money is not the problem but actually the desired endgame.
The elites never run out of THEIR money, and it serves to weed out all but the elites and the lowest of classes, who are then no longer self-sufficient and are coerced to give up their freedoms in order to survive.
Just a point on the timeline to a New World Order.
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11-06-2021, 11:27 AM
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,632
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mostpost
As Sherman Potter would say, “Horsepuckey”
The reforms in Build Back Better are supported by an overwhelming majority of Americans.
https://www.nationalmemo.com/new-pol...ck-better-bill
80% support giving Medicare power to negotiate drug prices.
75% support raising taxes on the rich and corporations.
82% support Medicare coverage for dental, hearing and vision.
84% support lower health insurance premiums.
77% support making child care more affordable.
72% support support creating clean energy jobs.
70% support guaranteeing paid family and medical leave.
You are the one who is out of touch.
But, don’t misunderstand me. Republicans are not the only problem. So called Centrist or moderate Democrats like Manchineel and Sinema are also a problem. As is Biden’s naive belief that Republicans will negotiate in good faith.
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guaranteed family and medical leave paid by who?
can you go your entire life raising your credit card numbers and limits spending 50% more every year than you make?
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11-06-2021, 11:48 AM
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#43
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 488
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex Phinney
What we have reached now is a fever pitch of full retard on the Democratic side. This current spending bill has turned into a pretty entertaining comedy. A president who has for weeks tried to sell his own party on it but can't. A congress who now knows that the public doesn't want it but pushes on and looks desperate doing it. The moderates hiding in the corner knowing it's political suicide, and the full retard faction of the party demanding more spending.
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Your language is offensive.
The infrastructure bill that just passed had wide public support which explains why it garnered bi-partisan votes.
The Build Back Better plan also polls positively, as most Americans are certainly on board with its framework and seeing the mega-rich pay their fair share in taxes. The dems are governing with a razor slim majority, and there are divisions within that majority that have their own policy concerns and interests - or in the case of Manchin and Sinema, self interests..
Regardless, the BBB deal will likely be hammered out before Thanksgiving.
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11-06-2021, 11:55 AM
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#44
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,632
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karakorum Kabbage
Your language is offensive.
The infrastructure bill that just passed had wide public support which explains why it garnered bi-partisan votes.
The Build Back Better plan also polls positively, as most Americans are certainly on board with its framework and seeing the mega-rich pay their fair share in taxes. The dems are governing with a razor slim majority, and there are divisions within that majority that have their own policy concerns and interests - or in the case of Manchin and Sinema, self interests..
Regardless, the BBB deal will likely be hammered out before Thanksgiving.
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most of those all-encompassing bills have a portion that has widespread support, the problem is all the other self interest crap that gets slipped into the final bill that no one sees until the bill is passed
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11-06-2021, 12:45 PM
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#45
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Near Lexington, KY
Posts: 3,246
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karakorum Kabbage
Your language is offensive.
The infrastructure bill that just passed had wide public support which explains why it garnered bi-partisan votes.
The Build Back Better plan also polls positively, as most Americans are certainly on board with its framework and seeing the mega-rich pay their fair share in taxes. The dems are governing with a razor slim majority, and there are divisions within that majority that have their own policy concerns and interests - or in the case of Manchin and Sinema, self interests..
Regardless, the BBB deal will likely be hammered out before Thanksgiving.
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We'll see how your Thanksgiving prognostication on the deal ages. Too bad wagering isn't allowed on things like this.
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