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11-02-2021, 04:11 PM
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What other scriptures contain God's great plan of salvation for mankind?
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The Hindu scriptures.
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11-02-2021, 04:13 PM
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Scriptures inside a religion thread works, using them in every thread is not what people want or care about. Just like someone should not create many Covid threads the same should be of religion threads.
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11-02-2021, 04:16 PM
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Scriptures inside a religion thread works, using them in every thread is not what people want or care about. Just like someone should not create many Covid threads the same should be of religion threads.
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When a thread title is about Witches and Demons...then the accompanying thread is liable to be of a religious nature. Try to keep up.
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11-02-2021, 04:18 PM
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When a thread title is about Witches and Demons...then the accompanying thread is liable to be of a religious nature. Try to keep up.
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No need, bogus.
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11-02-2021, 04:23 PM
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No need, bogus.
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Bogus what, moron...read the title. What did you expect a thread about Witches and Demons to be about?
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11-02-2021, 04:27 PM
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Bogus what, moron...read the title. What did you expect a thread about Witches and Demons to be about?
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How much gasslighting do you like with your tea? People run around saying how racist a country we are, another big crock of shit.
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11-02-2021, 05:02 PM
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How does this "greater Authority" define 'good and evil'? By saying that anything Christian is "good"...while anything non-Christian is "evil"?
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For religious people (Christian, Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc..) their God defines good and evil for them. There seems to be a lot of commonality. And even though there have been "evil" religious people over time, that's mostly a failing of man and not the religion.
The typical argument is "What about the agnostics and atheists?"
Most people can intuit good and evil without God, but generally speaking, we can look at the results of certain behaviors and tell what is good and bad by those results. In fact, it's likely that many of our religions were created by very bright men that observed the world and saw what lead to good results and what lead to bad results and then put rules in place to encourage better results.
We are in a period now where regardless of whether the rules came from religion or smart people that looked at results, people want to do what they want to do and we are going to hell in a handbasket because of it.
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11-02-2021, 05:32 PM
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We are in a period now where regardless of whether the rules came from religion or smart people that looked at results, people want to do what they want to do and we are going to hell in a handbasket because of it.
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People are doing what they want to do because our "lawmakers" have been breaking their own rules with impunity. When the leaders don't obey the rules...why should the followers?
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11-02-2021, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
For religious people (Christian, Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc..) their God defines good and evil for them. There seems to be a lot of commonality. And even though there have been "evil" religious people over time, that's mostly a failing of man and not the religion.
The typical argument is "What about the agnostics and atheists?"
Most people can intuit good and evil without God, but generally speaking, we can look at the results of certain behaviors and tell what is good and bad by those results. In fact, it's likely that many of our religions were created by very bright men that observed the world and saw what lead to good results and what lead to bad results and then put rules in place to encourage better results.
We are in a period now where regardless of whether the rules came from religion or smart people that looked at results, people want to do what they want to do and we are going to hell in a handbasket because of it.
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It's the difference between philosophical existentialism and essentialism...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essentialism
Aristotle was foundational in describing essentialism. A thing ought to be treated according to its nature. That can be significantly understood without divine revelation (natural law theory).
Existentialism found its fulfillment in Sartre. The will determines individually what is best for it.
Aquinas was able to build theologically upon Aristotle. Sartre was an atheist.
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11-02-2021, 05:49 PM
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People are doing what they want to do because our "lawmakers" have been breaking their own rules with impunity. When the leaders don't obey the rules...why should the followers?
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So a lawmaker's actions suppress a persons ability to differentiate between right and wrong?
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11-02-2021, 05:56 PM
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The Hindu scriptures.
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Then you should be able to supply plenty of Hindu scriptures to support that notion. I'll be waiting with bated breath for those like I had been waiting for your answer on what the basis is for God's discrimination in choosing who he will and will not save over on the Freewill Illusion thread.
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11-02-2021, 05:59 PM
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So a lawmaker's actions suppress a persons ability to differentiate between right and wrong?
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Sure. If a pastor is found frequenting houses of prostitution, then...why shouldn't I?
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11-02-2021, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Then you should be able to supply plenty of Hindu scriptures to support that notion. I'll be waiting with bated breath for those like I had been waiting for your answer on what the basis is for God's discrimination in choosing who he will and will not save over on the Freewill Illusion thread.
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You must be under the impression that I am here to educate you.
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11-02-2021, 06:02 PM
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Scriptures inside a religion thread works, using them in every thread is not what people want or care about. Just like someone should not create many Covid threads the same should be of religion threads.
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Lighten up, Fast, this thread is about a legitimate story that originated with the Washington Post. (Talk about megabytes of irony!) If you don't like topic, you can always exercise your free will and opt out -- unless, of course, you believe free will is an illusion.
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11-02-2021, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
People are doing what they want to do because our "lawmakers" have been breaking their own rules with impunity. When the leaders don't obey the rules...why should the followers?
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Lawmakers are supposed to be servants not leaders.
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