the point system

[Tom]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

That comment was based strictly on what Tom has written here.
I can't help it that most of his posts are in OTG.

Sorry you were not able to grasp two different thoughts being posted in the same thread. Next time, I will type slower.

[CincyHorseplayer]

Why don't we have a single qualifier race for the fillies?We extend the Eurobreds an olive branch to fall off of in the UAE Derby and that's a synth races full of turf horses or immortals from Wolverhampton(just kidding,sort of)!!There's should be at least 1 race for fillies run that garners the points to get in the Derby for an ambitious owner who thinks his filly has the stones and werewithal.

[Striker]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

The only thing stopping fillies from going to the Derby are their connections.

If they wanted to take on the boys, there is nothing to stop them from doing so, and earning their way in the same manner.

The problem is that if they choose to go that route the Oaks is out the door, and they have no chance to get in that race because the derby preps do not award Oaks points obviously. That's quite a big risk to take but apparently that is the price the connections should have to pay because an organization wants to basically tell them what are the best paths for their horse to get into the derby. It's of course up to CDI to determine whatever they want to in regards to their business, but as a horseplayer/fan I don't see how dictating where a filly must run to get into the derby is good for this game. How about the derby preps including Oaks points for fillies that race against the boys, and the Grade 1+2 filly races should have a low amount of derby points for the winner or ideas something like that, instead of just saying that they know the rules and they should race against the boys. I am not a sheets player but if I am not mistaken didn't Dreaming of Julia just run the fastest/best race in the last 15 years or so according to them? It is tough for me to comprehend how any horseplayer wouldn't want to see what she could do in the derby.

[magwell]

The girls dont need points to run in the oaks, only in the derby, so let them earn their way in like the boys do.........

[Striker]

Originally Posted by magwell

The girls dont need points to run in the oaks, only in the derby, so let them earn their way in like the boys do.........

Fillies don't need points to get in the Oaks? Churchill Downs says they do but you say they don't.

[Tom]

The game has passed him by.

[magwell]

Originally Posted by Tom

The game has passed him by.

Poor Tom ......Always proving that he is way over the brim......

[magwell]

Originally Posted by Striker

Fillies don't need points to get in the Oaks? Churchill Downs says they do but you say they don't.

Please tell me where you got that misinformation?

[cj]

Originally Posted by magwell

The girls dont need points to run in the oaks, only in the derby, so let them earn their way in like the boys do.........

http://www.churchilldowns.com/news/a...s-point-system

[Striker]

Originally Posted by magwell

Please tell me where you got that misinformation?

Do you even follow horseracing?

[magwell]

Originally Posted by cj

http://www.churchilldowns.com/news/a...s-point-system

Thank you I stand corrected......

[magwell]

Originally Posted by Striker

Do you even follow horseracing?

Now the game has passed me by also.......

[nijinski]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

The only thing stopping fillies from going to the Derby are their connections.

If they wanted to take on the boys, there is nothing to stop them from doing so, and earning their way in the same manner. Perhaps sometime, when the connections of a talented filly enter her in the Wood, or the SA Derby, they will have the Derby as an option, instead of automatically going for the Oaks.

You, also, bring up the prep race in the desert.
Don't blame it's importance on the new system.
It always had more graded stakes earnings than any race here, and for years has been a KY Derby stepping stone for the sheiks and Coolmore.

Wood Genuine Risk have earned her way into the Derby gate with her third place Wood finish?

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by nijinski

Wood Genuine Risk have earned her way into the Derby gate with her third place Wood finish?

No, she would not have.
However, a decision in Feb., or early March, by her connections to run in an additional prep race probably would have worked. 20 pts twice gets her there.

I take the point that the system is flawed now for fillies, though.
Points in the preps open to colts should count towards the Oaks.
Connections should be encouraged to put the best fillies up against the boys.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by magwell

Now the game has passed me by also.......

Hey, cheer up.....we can always play on line poker.