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07-06-2014, 02:30 PM
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what an easy game.
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do more horses win by a head than lose by a head
for the data base boys and girls,, Do more horses win by a head than lose by a head?
And what are their respective odds?
oh boy.it took a bit of work but I found the answer.
half of them win by a head and half of the lose.
I'm certain I just ment what are their respective odds?
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Last edited by formula_2002; 07-06-2014 at 02:34 PM.
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07-06-2014, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
for the data base boys and girls,, Do more horses win by a head than lose by a head?
And what are their respective odds?
oh boy.it took a bit of work but I found the answer.
half of them win by a head and half of the lose.
I'm certain I just ment what are their respective odds?
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Somehow me thinks that question needs to be restructured.
Intuitively, it is obvious if two horses are involved in that close of a call,
the answer is 50% win and 50% lose.
Logically though, there may be two or more horses in the same race losing by a head to the winner. So I would say that more horses lose by a head than win by a head.
But as I said, the question needs reframing somehow.
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07-06-2014, 02:44 PM
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what an easy game.
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Actually, what I really ment, is , do more horses maintain their head advantage than lose it.
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07-06-2014, 11:49 PM
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This qualifies as the dumbest thread starter since I have been here, and that goes back to '05
BTW- I am guessing 50-50
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07-07-2014, 05:06 AM
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Actually, a few more horses lose by a head than win by a head. For example, a horse can finish first by a head and beat two horses who were close enough together to each be listed as finishing a head behind.
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07-07-2014, 05:56 AM
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duh!!!
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07-07-2014, 06:57 AM
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what an easy game.
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Originally Posted by Pensacola Pete
Actually, a few more horses lose by a head than win by a head. For example, a horse can finish first by a head and beat two horses who were close enough together to each be listed as finishing a head behind.
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That's a good point.
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07-07-2014, 09:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyfox
Somehow me thinks that question needs to be restructured.
Intuitively, it is obvious if two horses are involved in that close of a call,
the answer is 50% win and 50% lose.
Logically though, there may be two or more horses in the same race losing by a head to the winner. So I would say that more horses lose by a head than win by a head.
But as I said, the question needs reframing somehow.
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BINGO! For every winner by a head, there must be a loser..by a head
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07-07-2014, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by formula_2002
Actually, what I really ment, is , do more horses maintain their head advantage than lose it.
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Now that's a good one.
I guess it's more or less a matter of personal experience.
Some people, especially those who are on bad runs of betting "could not catch a cold", would probably claim their horse gets caught and beaten every time.
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07-07-2014, 09:58 AM
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what an easy game.
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Originally Posted by thespaah
Now that's a good one.
I guess it's more or less a matter of personal experience.
Some people, especially those who are on bad runs of betting "could not catch a cold", would probably claim their horse gets caught and beaten every time.
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It's a matter of looking at the data
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07-07-2014, 10:06 AM
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But what about races that end in a dead heat for win, with only one horse losing by a head to the two winners?
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07-07-2014, 12:38 PM
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What about races where there is the rare triple dead heat and the rest of the field (say 7 more) all lose by a head in a 7 horse dead heat for place. what category would that fit in ?
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07-07-2014, 01:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CurtisontheBay
...all lose by a head in a 7 horse dead heat for place
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You mean for 4th, right?
Don't hit me!
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07-07-2014, 01:42 PM
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Thanks B-What was I thinking ? This thread has my brain (what's left) in a funk.
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07-07-2014, 03:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CurtisontheBay
Thanks B-What was I thinking ? This thread has my brain (what's left) in a funk.
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I thought I was the only one, Curtis. Damn, this thread is like a riddle that is juxtaposed with an oxymoron.
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