Honestly, Really, if you're a far left progressive what do you want? Be Specific

[PaceAdvantage]

it's a two-way street jimmy.

[PhantomOnTour]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

If the shot fits, wear it.
Oh, I forgot. You want me to pay for your shoes too.

No, I don’t want you to pay for my shoes...you just THINK I want you to, and that’s the Repubs’ problem in a nutshell.
You folks love to make assumptions (and hurl childish insults) & are convinced that you’re right.
Wrong and wrong.

Merry Christmas to you

[zico20]

Originally Posted by mostpost

What do we want?
We want to be paid enough to take care of our families. To provide decent housing, sufficient and nutritious food, education for our children and affordable health care. And we want to do this without working two and three jobs. We want the ability to negotiate for these things as equals with our employers.

We want to live in communities where the water is clean and safe to drink and the air isn’t loaded with carcinogens. Where factory owners are more concerned about workers safety and well being and less about excess profits.

We want to be able to marry the person will love regardless of whether or not they are the same or different gender as we.

We want every eligible voter to be able to vote easily and without restrictions.

We want to be able to go about our community without fearing for our lives at the hands of racist police. We want justice which is not colored by race or ethnicity.

We want universal health insurance, with no preconditions. We want to receive that care at a provider of our choice when we need it.

We want a fair and equitable tax code with a graduated income tax.

We want free and quality education for everyone through college for everyone who wishes to attend.

We want a living wage.

We want a woman’s right to choose.

We want freedom of religion, but we also want freedom from religion.

We want capitalism, but we don’t want unfettered capitalism. We don’t want fascism which is what unregulated capitalism so often devolves into.

We support Israel and the right of the Jewish people to a secure and safe homeland, but we recognize suppressing the Palestinian people is not the way to achieve this.

We want an end to Citizens United.

We want Supreme Court Justices selected for one eighteen year term staggered so a new justice takes the bench every two years.

We want an end to presidents who lie and news organizations which are propaganda mouthpieces for political movements. I mean you Fox News and Tucker Carlson.

That’s what we want among other things. What will we do?

We will work for what we get. We will be honest and not cut corners. We will pay our taxes, respect the rights and opinions of others and serve in the military.

We will assist that you do likewise. We will not allow our rights to be taken away or abridged.

So you want to be paid enough to take care of your families! So if a woman chooses to have eight kids then she should automatically be paid a lot more than someone who has none! That's brilliant, you just eliminated all personal responsibility. You want affordable health insurance? You already have that under Obamacare. What you want is for it all to be free. Once again, no personal responsibility to take care of your body.

A fair an equitable tax code. You didn't say what that was, but with everything you are proposing it seems clear you want a top rate of 90% so no one is rich. Please name me three places where the water is not clean and safe. Can you? You oppose capitalism, no one here is fooled. You are a socialist and believe the government should run everything and control everyone's life.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by zico20

A fair an equitable tax code. You didn't say what that was, but with everything you are proposing it seems clear you want a top rate of 90% so no one is rich. Please name me three places where the water is not clean and safe. Can you? You oppose capitalism, no one here is fooled. You are a socialist and believe the government should run everything and control everyone's life.

Ding Ding!!

[thaskalos]

1.) I want the death penalty to be instituted nationwide...and carried out in a timely and cost-effective manner. Death row convicts shouldn't be dying of old age; when you are a heinous killer, your "right to live" is forfeited. And...never mind the electric chair and other time-wasting and costly nonsense. Just tie up the killer's arms and legs...and lock him in a room with the family of the victim(s).

2.) All elected officials, whether on the federal or the state level, should be limited to two terms in office. Elected officials are like diapers. They should be changed often...and for the same reason.

3.) Whenever our government decides to send our soldiers to fight a war on foreign soil...then the sons of the president and the congressmen/women should be the first ones to be shipped to the front line of the battlefield.

[Actor]

Originally Posted by delayjf

This one caught my eye - do you have any idea how much this would cost just to send the millions of 18 year old's to boot camp? Given the list, and its cost, you are looking at a marginal tax rate of 90% on everybody.

Where are you getting your numbers from? Over half of the federal budget goes to the military. The U.S. spends more on its military than the next 25 nations combined. That simply is not needed. What I propose would be just a hiccup in our military budget.

Why are we in Afghanistan? It is the most worthless real estate on earth with the possible exception of Antarctica. We would not be in Afghanistan if the sons of congressmen and senators were serving there. If you want to figure the cost of our military add blood into the equation.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour

Merry Christmas to you

Merry Christmas to you as well Phantom.

When I saw all of the things that Mostie and Actor wrote I, as a person who worked, studied, bettered myself and worked, studied, raised kids, and bettered myself, and more of the same, without handouts from parents (who didn't have a 'pot to piss in' but were loving)etc., and was happy with my "lot" every step of the way, I wrote what I wrote about "Leftism" as a "Personality Disorder" in a nation where every child (without disabilities) has a chance to succeed I found that hard to swallow.
"Leftism acolytes" will never be content and gratified with how wonderful America is, no matter how much society changes. That is a character disorder.
Every American can learn from the life example of Walter Williams who recently passed away.
Grew up in the "Projects" of Philadelphia--> Drove a Cab--->Army Service-->
College---> Professor of Economics.
He's a man I admire. No blaming government or anyone else for his circumstances.
A great example for us all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Merry Christmas to you as well Phantom.

When I saw all of the things that Mostie and Actor wrote I, as a person who worked, studied, bettered myself and worked, studied, raised kids, and bettered myself, and more of the same, without handouts from parents (who didn't have a 'pot to piss in' but were loving)etc., and was happy with my "lot" every step of the way, I wrote what I wrote about "Leftism" as a "Personality Disorder" in a nation where every child (without disabilities) has a chance to succeed I found that hard to swallow.
"Leftism acolytes" will never be content and gratified with how wonderful America is, no matter how much society changes. That is a character disorder.
Every American can learn from the life example of Walter Williams who recently passed away.
Grew up in the "Projects" of Philadelphia--> Drove a Cab--->Army Service-->
College---> Professor of Economics.
He's a man I admire. No blaming government or anyone else for his circumstances.
A great example for us all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams

Amen! I loved reading Walter Williams, he was brilliant and practical.

There are other stories all around us in the same vein.

Mostie proclaims people who work hard cannot get ahead. He leaves out the "work smart" part of the equation. The old saying that "life is hard, but much harder if you're stupid" applies here.

When I read all this crap I see nothing but Lefties who want someone else to pay for things, or they want someone else to work hard to setup a society where "they" don't have to work.

Hell no........ btw, 90% of what they want is available within 48 hours or so. Hit the airline web sites. You can be in Europe in a couple of days......sucking off the Government teet for everything you have. Including your safety that is bolstered by the U.S. on all fronts.

[snappit]

Originally Posted by mostpost

What do we want?
We want to be paid enough to take care of our families. To provide decent housing, sufficient and nutritious food, education for our children and affordable health care. And we want to do this without working two and three jobs. We want the ability to negotiate for these things as equals with our employers.

We want to live in communities where the water is clean and safe to drink and the air isn’t loaded with carcinogens. Where factory owners are more concerned about workers safety and well being and less about excess profits.

We want to be able to marry the person will love regardless of whether or not they are the same or different gender as we.

We want every eligible voter to be able to vote easily and without restrictions.

We want to be able to go about our community without fearing for our lives at the hands of racist police. We want justice which is not colored by race or ethnicity.

We want universal health insurance, with no preconditions. We want to receive that care at a provider of our choice when we need it.

We want a fair and equitable tax code with a graduated income tax.

We want free and quality education for everyone through college for everyone who wishes to attend.

We want a living wage.

We want a woman’s right to choose.

We want freedom of religion, but we also want freedom from religion.

We want capitalism, but we don’t want unfettered capitalism. We don’t want fascism which is what unregulated capitalism so often devolves into.

We support Israel and the right of the Jewish people to a secure and safe homeland, but we recognize suppressing the Palestinian people is not the way to achieve this.

We want an end to Citizens United.

We want Supreme Court Justices selected for one eighteen year term staggered so a new justice takes the bench every two years.

We want an end to presidents who lie and news organizations which are propaganda mouthpieces for political movements. I mean you Fox News and Tucker Carlson.

That’s what we want among other things. What will we do?

We will work for what we get. We will be honest and not cut corners. We will pay our taxes, respect the rights and opinions of others and serve in the military.

We will assist that you do likewise. We will not allow our rights to be taken away or abridged.

I'm don't think what you have said is 'far left' in any way. In most of Europe these things are standard thoughts and most are in place.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by snappit

I'm don't think what you have said is 'far left' in any way. In most of Europe these things are standard thoughts and most are in place.

It's what Jesus would have wanted...

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by snappit

I'm don't think what you have said is 'far left' in any way. In most of Europe these things are standard thoughts and most are in place.

Americans have very little perspective when it comes to the political spectrum.

"Biden will turn the US into Venezuela!"

When in reality Biden is to the right of Boris Johnson.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Americans have very little perspective when it comes to the political spectrum.

"Biden will turn the US into Venezuela!"

When is reality Biden is to the right of Boris Johnson.

The old Biden maybe.

This new version will be lucky to keep himself upright on a daily basis.

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Americans have very little perspective when it comes to the political spectrum.

"Biden will turn the US into Venezuela!"

When in reality Biden is to the right of Boris Johnson.

"China will turn the US into Venezuela!"

When in reality Biden is right where China wants him.

[snappit]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Americans have very little perspective when it comes to the political spectrum.

"Biden will turn the US into Venezuela!"

When in reality Biden is to the right of Boris Johnson.

And that's frightening as Johnson is on the right wing of the Conservative party. Mind you some of your democrats would certainly be seen as Conservatives over here. I just hope that for your sakes Biden proves more competent than the buffoon we have as Prime Minister.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by snappit

And that's frightening as Johnson is on the right wing of the Conservative party. Mind you some of your democrats would certainly be seen as Conservatives over here. I just hope that for your sakes Biden proves more competent than the buffoon we have as Prime Minister.

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