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12-26-2017, 04:14 PM
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Mike on Collected looked just like Mike on Arrogate
Now we know where the fault lies---and its not Arrogate. What a joke, the guy along with Baffert never miss opportunity to stiff bettors.
Last edited by linrom1; 12-26-2017 at 04:19 PM.
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12-26-2017, 04:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by linrom1
Now we know where the fault lies---and its not Arrogate. What a joke, the guy along with Baffert never miss opportunity to stiff bettors.
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Yeah, he goes to the lead at Del Mar on a suspect, likely closer favoring track, but here is Silky Sullivan. Not necessarily Smith's fault, Baffert may have wanted a Pegasus prep.
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12-26-2017, 04:53 PM
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I bet against him, as I would imagine most serious players because this race wasnt that important.
With that said I had a fast race design, not a slow one, not sure how the 4-5-6 all decided that they would be best off rating, and the 3 three who had come off the pace had was on the lead.
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12-26-2017, 07:22 PM
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It doesn't matter who you bet on, that was piss poor. Collected should have been in the lead by 5 lengths after a 1/2 in 48.0
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12-26-2017, 07:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
It doesn't matter who you bet on, that was piss poor. Collected should have been in the lead by 5 lengths after a 1/2 in 48.0
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Hoping that leads to some value when I actually do bet him, likely next out.
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12-26-2017, 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
I bet against him, as I would imagine most serious players because this race wasnt that important.
With that said I had a fast race design, not a slow one, not sure how the 4-5-6 all decided that they would be best off rating, and the 3 three who had come off the pace had was on the lead.
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I was on the same boat in which I felt the might get the easy lead as might let him go cuz of no concern of him winning.
Instead....
gets the lead with Gary Stevens on board and crawls to absurd splits for this quality of horses and has more engine than a Ferrari left for the stretch.
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12-26-2017, 07:49 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
Hoping that leads to some value when I actually do bet him, likely next out.
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That is all you can do really. I hate rides like that but what else can you do?
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12-26-2017, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
That is all you can do really. I hate rides like that but what else can you do?
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What will be the ridiculous over-corrections be for a day full of 2YOs and 3YOs?
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12-26-2017, 08:31 PM
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Sometimes you really have to wonder what they were thinking.
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12-26-2017, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Sometimes you really have to wonder what they were thinking.
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"It was a bad ride. It was my fault," said Smith, who took over riding Collected for Martin Garcia, who relocated to New York. "I slipped leaving the gate. We should have been on the lead. Then they were going too slow and we couldn't get there in the end."
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12-26-2017, 09:04 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luisbe
"It was a bad ride. It was my fault," said Smith, who took over riding Collected for Martin Garcia, who relocated to New York. "I slipped leaving the gate. We should have been on the lead. Then they were going too slow and we couldn't get there in the end."
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He should have just zipped it after the "my fault" part.
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12-26-2017, 09:10 PM
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Location: Nebraska
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luisbe
"It was a bad ride. It was my fault," said Smith, who took over riding Collected for Martin Garcia, who relocated to New York. "I slipped leaving the gate. We should have been on the lead. Then they were going too slow and we couldn't get there in the end."
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Translation:
"My bad, please give me another chance to ride this horse."
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12-26-2017, 09:39 PM
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Location: Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jay68802
Translation:
"My bad, please give me another chance to ride this horse."
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whatever happened to the good gate jockeys like P-VAL and Jorge Chavez of the past?
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12-27-2017, 01:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
whatever happened to the good gate jockeys like P-VAL and Jorge Chavez of the past?
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Exactly right, those great gate jockeys are in the past. Purses are so big today the trying to blast out of the gate is not what it use to be.
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12-29-2017, 08:05 PM
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math/science # cruncher
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
whatever happened to the good gate jockeys like P-VAL and Jorge Chavez of the past?
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P Val
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