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05-25-2017, 11:48 PM
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Conceptually, this sounds much like the principles behind the Match-Up, a variation within the Sartin Methodology. In the words of Jim "The Hat" Bradshaw, the race doesn't start at the 2nd call, the race starts when the gate pops.
The Match-Up is based on projecting an early pace and determining whether that pace and the make up of the field will result in a race that will run early, with an "E" running style horse winning, or OTE (other than early) with a presser or sustained style winning.
If one of the "E"s in #1 above can dominate the others, it will likely win. If not, the "E"s will fight each other for the lead and burn out, leaving the others in #2 to take over in the stretch.
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It is NOTHING like the match up.
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05-27-2017, 11:53 AM
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I don't know the previous version of new pace. This version builds it's premise based on where they are winning from at today's track surface and distance.
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05-27-2017, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Capper Al
I don't know the previous version of new pace. This version builds it's premise based on where they are winning from at today's track surface and distance.
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Sounds radical.
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05-27-2017, 12:40 PM
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When you see it, it makes sense.
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06-07-2017, 11:39 PM
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Is Dave's Facebook page gone?
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06-07-2017, 11:40 PM
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It is still there.
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06-08-2017, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by oughtoh
It is still there.
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Am I banned on my first attempt to get in?
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05-12-2018, 06:58 PM
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Grade B and Grade A races overlays
Dave ,
Can you please post some screenshots of grade A and grade B races which. Display odds line and Public odds please.
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05-12-2018, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mikesal57
Am I banned on my first attempt to get in?
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You were banned over a year ago for bad behavior under two different names.
I have unblocked you but you will need to request access again.
Talking Handicapping With Dave Schwartz
Dave
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05-12-2018, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hypnotist1
Dave ,
Can you please post some screenshots of grade A and grade B races which. Display odds line and Public odds please.
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This is a very simple example but will seem somewhat extreme.
(Note: Hypnotist asked this question about an email I sent to everyone on our list about simple processes to find value. What I have posted is not actually the result of a "simple process," but does show how HSH users generally view a race.)
Since we do not actually have the odds available, we use our own "artificial odds." Although they are sometimes very wrong, they're reasonably accurate and make the races so much more enjoyable to play.
In this particular example, I wagered a little less money into the race but wound up making the same money. (Okay, $1 less.)
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05-13-2018, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
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I'm in already
Thxs....even though its a year old thread...lol
mike
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05-13-2018, 09:31 AM
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Under an pseudonym?
I do not see you in the group.
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