GOP - and living a complete lie

[horses4courses]

This is a great article.
I know the source will make it unreadable for many on here.
However, there really is little to dispute.
Read it in it's entirety. Go on....I dare you!

https://www.motherjones.com/politics..._medium=social

The Democratic Party is chastised around here with regularity.
I, for one, can't defend the organization completely.
They definitely have their faults and shortcomings.
The other side? Way beyond a joke for many years now.

Once upon a time, Republican legislators and party leaders claimed they cared deeply about certain foundational issues—the deficit, family values, free trade, hawkish foreign policy. Now they were cheering a twice-divorced adulterer who had run up the federal debt, sloppily imposed tariffs, and embraced the anti-American autocrats leading Russia and North Korea—a man devoid of serious thought and guiding policy principles, a self-fixated candidate who presented no intellectual framework for his presidency. Had the GOP become the party of no ideas?]

Throughout his decades as a Republican, Stevens considered this racist element a bug in the system.He now realizes it has been a feature.He huffed that the Republican Party had not merely drifted away from its core positions, as sometimes occurs with political parties: “Fair trade, balanced budgets, character, family values, standing up to foreign adversaries like Russia—we’re all against that now. You have to ask, ‘Does someone abandon deeply held beliefs in three or four years?’ No. It means you didn’t ever hold them.” He added: “I feel like a guy who was working for Bernie Madoff.”]

“Republicans only exist to elect Republicans,” Stevens remarked with sadness. “They are down to one idea: How can we win?”

[JustRalph]

Yep.....

We learned a ton from the Obama years.

He was an empty suit. And you guys didn’t care as long it was a black suit

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Yep.....

We learned a ton from the Obama years.

He was an empty suit. And you guys didn’t care as long it was a black suit

I seem to recall it was you guys who said he
was disrespectful when wearing a tan suit.

[PaceAdvantage]

It's funny...we were all saying the same things about Democrats right here on off-topic many, many years ago....remember H4C?

Like Ralph says, we learn from the masters...

[horses4courses]

Stuart Stevens is still a conservative.
One with a conscience. A realist.

[Tom]

You guys created a monster - lei e with it.
YOU should be switching parties - this outrageous behavios ir exactly what YOU are all about.

Shut up and run along, sonny, your BS is well exposed here.
SUCKER.

[porchy44]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Stuart Stevens is still a conservative.
One with a conscience. A realist.

I Don't agree with the bulk of what he says , I do have trouble with one thing. The Republican party used to hold some deep beliefs about a growing DEFICIT. They abandoned that in 2017. Does make one wonder, abandoning something so quickly, if you actually believed it.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by porchy44

I Don't agree with the bulk of what he says , I do have trouble with one thing. The Republican party used to hold some deep beliefs about a growing DEFICIT. They abandoned that in 2017. Does make one wonder, abandoning something so quickly, if you actually believed it.

A key issue.
An integral part of living a lie.

[porchy44]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

A key issue.
An integral part of living a lie.

Neither party seems to care and given the current demands of both parties, I would find it mocking, if the Democratic party brought it up as a talking point in the upcoming election. Simply put, "pot meet kettle".

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by porchy44

I Don't agree with the bulk of what he says , I do have trouble with one thing. The Republican party used to hold some deep beliefs about a growing DEFICIT. They abandoned that in 2017. Does make one wonder, abandoning something so quickly, if you actually believed it.

2017?

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by porchy44

Neither party seems to care and given the current demands of both parties, I would find it mocking, if the Democratic party brought it up as a talking point in the upcoming election. Simply put, "pot meet kettle".

Compare presidencies from Reagan onwards.
Who has the best records regarding the deficit?

[porchy44]

Unfortunately, the tax cuts of 2017 reduced revenue compared to how much the federal government would have collected in the absence of the tax cut. thus adding more federal spending on interest payments

[porchy44]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Compare presidencies from Reagan onwards.
Who has the best records regarding the deficit?

But again mocking, Pelosi is sticking to a 3.4 Trillion stimulus package.

[delayjf]

Unfortunately, the tax cuts of 2017 reduced revenue compared to how much the federal government would have collected in the absence of the tax cut. thus adding more federal spending on interest payments
Last edited by porchy44; Today at 12:30 AM.

The assumption being that the economy would have reacted the same without the tax cuts.

[porchy44]

Originally Posted by delayjf

The assumption being that the economy would have reacted the same without the tax cuts.

Actually a good counterclaim. May have avoided a "car accident". Not the "train wreck", when in five years, U.S. interest payments may pass the defense budget.