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09-10-2010, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ikeika
I was in the library, a long time ago, and saw a book about handicapping. At this time, I had never read anything by anyone about horse racing other than the past performances in the Daily Racing Form. It was by Adrew Beyer. I glanced through it and near the back it had a reprint of past performances of a race. He had his circles and numbers written over some horses. This was for a filly maiden race. One filly looked like it couldn't find its way out of the gate over and over and over again. But she had been racing solely against the boys. Now she was in with the girls. To me, she was a stand out from having been in tougher races. I turned the page for the results and my horse won. It paid around $29, if memory serves me well. Beyer's horse ran second. In the first sentence after the charts he said he didn't know why that longshot won but then he goes on to tell you about his horse. I figured if he didn't know then there was no reason for me to read this book. I put it back. When class looks speed in the eye, speed loses.
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I mean, we had to know this was coming...of all the authors in the world, you just happened to stumble upon a Beyer book... 
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09-10-2010, 02:44 AM
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Beyer book
The Downey Public Library wasn't into horse racing. I did start spending many days over the next few years at the CHRB library across from Santa Anita and their selection seems almost endless. Like I said, I knew I'd be taken to task. That's the Carleton F. Burke Memorial Library.
Last edited by ikeika; 09-10-2010 at 02:47 AM.
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09-10-2010, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ikeika
Like I said, I knew I'd be taken to task.
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How did you know?
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09-10-2010, 03:23 AM
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The same reason I can pick winners. If you look through the court records in L.A. county back in '87 you'll see where my ex took me to court over playing the horses. The judge said that it was gambling and she couldn't have anything of what I had won. She said that with me it wasn't gambling. She said that she felt like the woman who put her husband through medical school and was now leaving to go and make a bunch of money. The judge said that I did put her through graduate school and she had her directorship and I wasn't asking anything of her. Case dismissed.
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09-10-2010, 08:46 AM
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clean money
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spin those yarns
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Preparation. Discipline. Patience. Decisiveness.
Last edited by Robert Fischer; 09-10-2010 at 08:48 AM.
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09-10-2010, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
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The group on this fine site represent a broad range of successful and non-successful players in terms of long-term profitability playing this 'tough' game. That being said a 90% win rate is simply hard to understand and accept and I think most, if not all ,would agree with me. That's simply my opinion.
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09-10-2010, 10:49 AM
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90%
Yep, you're right. People don't remember that I bet very few races and I can sit at the track for days on end and never make a bet. I don't count all the races in a week that I didn't bet, just the one I did bet.
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09-10-2010, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ikeika
Yep, you're right. People don't remember that I bet very few races and I can sit at the track for days on end and never make a bet. I don't count all the races in a week that I didn't bet, just the one I did bet.
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Andy Beyer wrote about a friend that he was assocaiated with years ago that was a fixture on the New York circuit. His name was Charlie and he would wait for the right opportunities with extreme patience. He could go to the track every day for weeks or months without making a single move...when he did bet he could earn on one winning bet, a sum which the average middle class American would consider a decent annual income. Yes, he had an occasional loser.
More power to you.All the best.
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09-10-2010, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BELMONT 6-6-09
The group on this fine site represent a broad range of successful and non-successful players in terms of long-term profitability playing this 'tough' game. That being said a 90% win rate is simply hard to understand and accept and I think most, if not all ,would agree with me. That's simply my opinion.
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A 90% win rate over any sort of reasonable sample is totally, completely, and utterly impossible with a 100% degree of certainty. Anyone making such a statement should be given the amount of credibility and respect that they justly deserve.
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09-10-2010, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by markgoldie
A 90% win rate over any sort of reasonable sample is totally, completely, and utterly impossible with a 100% degree of certainty. Anyone making such a statement should be given the amount of credibility and respect that they justly deserve.
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Especially when that person claims to possess the ability to "look at the horses in the post parade and see which horse is fit and ready"...FROM THE CONFINES OF A LAS VEGAS SPORTSBOOK.
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