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10-02-2017, 08:31 AM
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Think about it this way, NO one is going to trade their hand for yours. New policy alone will kill off and discourage several million of your like minded folks from voting, when things begin to snowball the Mexican's will not be the only ones outbound at the borders.
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Good answer!
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10-02-2017, 10:00 AM
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Think about it this way, New policy alone will Kill off......[/quote
Kill off? For real ?
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Policy of Barack Hussein Obama grew all forms socialism during his administration, policy that is 180 degrees will have the opposite effect.
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10-02-2017, 10:18 AM
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This sounds like it's happened before in a couple of places.
Of course that won't happen but thanks for the glimpse.
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Consider you said Millennials would be a deciding factor prior to the general election giving Pennsylvania Avenue to Hillary Clinton. Some 40 % of Millennials live at home with parents making less than 10k per year, the other 60 % like money and expensive cars and toys and half of them voted for Trump. What happens when a bunch of the 40 % stay home and smoke dope instead of vote? Who in their right mind wants to provide heath care and everything else going forward for this bunch of folks, people who intend on doing nothing for a entire life. The optics are not on your side, a large part of being healthy is prevention and by all accounts Millennials will break the bank. The 32 Trillion dollar estimate is way too conservative a projection for the cost. Anyone who is better than average in math is bound to abandon your ideology on cost alone. Be very careful to not continue being wrong the rest of your life elysiantraveller.
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10-02-2017, 10:33 AM
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Consider you said Millennials would be a deciding factor prior to the general election giving Pennsylvania Avenue to Hillary Clinton. Some 40 % of Millennials live at home with parents making less than 10k per year, the other 60 % like money and expensive cars and toys and half of them voted for Trump. What happens when a bunch of the 40 % stay home and smoke dope instead of vote? Who in their right mind wants to provide heath care and everything else going forward for this bunch of folks, people who intend on doing nothing for a entire life. The optics are not on your side, a large part of being healthy is prevention and by all accounts Millennials will break the bank. The 32 Trillion dollar estimate is way too conservative a projection for the cost. Anyone who is better than average in math is bound to abandon your ideology on cost alone. Be very careful to not continue being wrong the rest of your life elysiantraveller.
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I'd be curious on where you get your numbers from. Not necessarily saying they are wrong but do you have a source?
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10-02-2017, 10:42 AM
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Anyone who is better than average in math is bound to abandon your ideology on cost alone. Be very careful to not continue being wrong the rest of your life elysiantraveller.
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This thread is about how much longer Tillerson will stay on as SOS.
But you've already hijacked enough this thread enough please educate me on my ideology...
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10-02-2017, 11:01 AM
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This thread is about how much longer Tillerson will stay on as SOS.
But you've already hijacked enough this thread enough please educate me on my ideology...
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Standard diversionary tactics. If you can't refute the facts, attack the person presenting them.
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10-02-2017, 06:52 PM
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This thread is about how much longer Tillerson will stay on as SOS.
But you've already hijacked enough this thread enough please educate me on my ideology...
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Maybe your right, this is not another hate Trump garbage thread.
Maybe your right your not a ultra liberal pushing socialized health care.
But maybe I paint it like it is, and a year from now your still posting hate Trump threads and in turn I call them out. Remember if we took your advice and voted for little Marco we would have Hillary now. Any way you cut it you have a hard row to hoe.
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10-02-2017, 06:57 PM
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Who cares?
He knew what he was getting into.
He will either continue to do what he thinks is right or he will quit.
Trump's tweets are part of the whole game plan, IMHO.
I could be wrong, I often am. But Good cop Bad cop seems to be playing out here.
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10-02-2017, 08:17 PM
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It seems to me that Tillerson is out of sync with Trump's agenda.
Tillerson should resign if he and his boss, the President of the United States, disagree on basic Trump-policy issues.
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10-02-2017, 08:32 PM
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It seems to me that Tillerson is out of sync with Trump's agenda.
Tillerson should resign if he and his boss, the President of the United States, disagree on basic Trump-policy issues.
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In private maybe they agree KJU should be dead, but can't agree on timeline.
But anything that drives liberals batshit crazy is all good.
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10-02-2017, 09:01 PM
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In private maybe they agree KJU should be dead, but can't agree on timeline. But anything that drives liberals batshit crazy is all good.
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I agree on both counts but especially your second point.
But, seriously, Tillerson is also at odds with Trump on his (Trump) decision to get out of the Paris Climate Accord. Tillerson was all for that, and Tillerson is also a supporter of the Iran Nuke deal, for god's sake.
Whose side is he on, anyway?
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10-02-2017, 09:16 PM
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I agree on both counts but especially your second point.
But, seriously, Tillerson is also at odds with Trump on his (Trump) decision to get out of the Paris Climate Accord. Tillerson was all for that, and Tillerson is also a supporter of the Iran Nuke deal, for god's sake.
Whose side is he on, anyway?
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Your as sharp as any, so field this logic.
The mark of a super Chief Executive is having very sharp minds around him, not men or women that always agree but equal in ability to find best solutions. Maybe you would also agree that Rex W. Tillerson see's this as his swan song easily outperforming others who recently held that position. Mind you that I am not looking for everyone to agree who are politically on the same side, warm air is for the other side.
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10-02-2017, 10:52 PM
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this happened in the real world, the boss would talk to the guy privately, discuss it, and either let him go on or tell him to try something else.
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Good cop, bad cop perhaps???
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10-02-2017, 11:33 PM
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But, seriously, Tillerson is also at odds with Trump on his (Trump) decision to get out of the Paris Climate Accord. Tillerson was all for that, and Tillerson is also a supporter of the Iran Nuke deal, for god's sake.
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Why then did Trump appoint him? Did Trump not discuss issues with him before giving him the job? Has Tillerson changed his positions since Trump appointed him? Has Trump changed his?
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10-03-2017, 12:12 AM
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Why then did Trump appoint him? ...
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Master plan, piss off exploding brain liberals, etc.
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