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Old 04-11-2016, 07:23 PM   #46
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Cj, gives us your expertise, out of all the prep races you have seen so far, who looks the best to wear the roses on May 7?
Let's wait until after Arkansas.
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Old 04-11-2016, 07:24 PM   #47
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What figure did Danzig Candy get for the Santa Anita Derby?
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Old 04-17-2016, 11:58 AM   #48
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All the Derby points races are complete. I'll add the TC races as they are run, but this is the final "prep" spreadsheet.

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Old 04-17-2016, 12:03 PM   #49
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More teaching....

Thank you for all the work. Now, I can print it.
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Old 04-17-2016, 12:05 PM   #50
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More teaching....

Thank you for all the work. Now, I can print it.
Teaching?

And of course you are welcome. I LOVE this stuff!
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Old 04-17-2016, 12:42 PM   #51
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The chase is half the fun. Good stuff as usual CJ. I think this year's derby has enormous profit potential. We had greatness last year. Let's get greenbacks this year!
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Old 04-17-2016, 01:11 PM   #52
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Teaching?

And of course you are welcome. I LOVE this stuff!
Teaching? Yes. This chart. I'll mark it all up. Different from other days, but still, look for value. When the Oaks/Derby package comes out. Easy purchase. Go straight to Condensed, highlight the two highest early, the two highest late--every race. Look for high back fig as well. (I know you've seen the value, the prices yesterday for Genre, Collected at Keeneland, for Creator at Oaklawn. And associated exactas.)

What's a sheet? Something one sleeps under!

Or, two, per race card, three, max.
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Old 04-17-2016, 06:30 PM   #53
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Thanks CJ, Great work

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So with the lexington and arkansas derby over, does that mean that there are no more points to be had.....

So a tally can be made for the Derby.

Is it 20 posts? And the draw is when?

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https://timeformusblog.com/2016/02/2...riple-crown-3/

Kentucky Derby contender PPs coming later today.
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Old 04-18-2016, 04:25 PM   #56
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It might be interesting when the PPs arrive to cross reference the DRFs new pace icons and see if there are any patterns. I presume the Timeform fractions shown are for the leader at each call and not just the winner...could a fractional charting of the winner of each race be constructed? I do not have the expertise to do this quickly and with confidence and no software...so if we could see which races favored speed versus closers. It will be interesting to see various pace projections for the Derby. I wish they would allow rabbits into the race to soften up Nyquist some...company now on the front end just Danzing Candy and Collected?

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It might be interesting when the PPs arrive to cross reference the DRFs new pace icons and see if there are any patterns. I presume the Timeform fractions shown are for the leader at each call and not just the winner...could a fractional charting of the winner of each race be constructed? I do not have the expertise to do this quickly and with confidence and no software...so if we could see which races favored speed versus closers. It will be interesting to see various pace projections for the Derby. I wish they would allow rabbits into the race to soften up Nyquist some...company now on the front end just Danzing Candy and Collected?
You can set the fractions any way you like. You can do it for the leader, or you can do it for each horse. You can do pace figures or you can do fractions. With fractions, you can do official or adjusted.

We show extreme pace by denoting really fast fractions in red and slow ones in blue.
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Old 04-18-2016, 05:44 PM   #58
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In answer to your question, Vigors. Post draw time on Wednesday.

This is FREE. It is, likely, the last thing connected with the Derby that you will get for free as no one really enjoys working for ZIP. Surely you understand.

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So with the lexington and arkansas derby over, does that mean that there are no more points to be had.....

So a tally can be made for the Derby.

Is it 20 posts? And the draw is when?
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12:30-6pm ET May 6 Kentucky Oaks 142 NBC Sports Network

12-4pm ET May 7 Kentucky Derby Undercard NBC Sports Network

4-7:30pm ET May 7 Kentucky Derby 142 6:34pm ET Kentucky Derby Post Time
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im confused, wonder if you could share your reasoning for disparity between first and second place finishers in the wood? BTW lani impresses me as an athletic very smart horse, who i think will run better than his figure would imply.
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