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cardinalsfan · 10-13-2015, 02:01 PM

I believe RPM started out with best intentions but then found out it is easier and faster to quickly produce shoddy software and then promote it well. Kind of like Norris Strauss (Gemini Press, and a dozen other companies who's names I can't remember). Funny thing, Strauss also sold a few legit methods among the garbage he produced.

thaskalos · 10-13-2015, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cardinalsfan

I believe RPM started out with best intentions but then found out it is easier and faster to quickly produce shoddy software and then promote it well. Kind of like Norris Strauss (Gemini Press, and a dozen other companies who's names I can't remember). Funny thing, Strauss also sold a few legit methods among the garbage he produced.

They say that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". The tip-off for me is how many different "winning systems" the system mill is shelling out. If I see a catalog filled with "winning systems"...then I quickly put it in the circular file, where it belongs.

NorCalGreg · 10-13-2015, 05:45 PM

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I was a good customer of RPM many years ago...and I even talked to Dave Powers once on the phone. I recall him telling me that Clint Tracy was the finest horseplayer he had ever seen. They spent a lot of time together...he told me.

Ol' Dave spent a lot of time with Clint, did he?

cardinalsfan · 10-14-2015, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thaskalos

They say that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". The tip-off for me is how many different "winning systems" the system mill is shelling out. If I see a catalog filled with "winning systems"...then I quickly put it in the circular file, where it belongs.

Good point!

upthecreek · 10-14-2015, 10:46 AM

Got this one in the mail yesterday
http://rpmhandicappinggiant.com/jon-...bankroll-plan/

Only going to sell 250 copies of the book and 150 software program's-yea right Theyll sell 1000 if they can

pandy · 10-14-2015, 11:01 AM

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Have you stopped promoting your wares (other than on the website) Pandy?

I haven't advertised since a post card mailing I did three years ago. I may do another mailing, though, not sure. It can be cost prohibitive. My mailing list is only 2,000, which isn't bad.

Since I post free picks and live tests of my new methods on my website, it's effective and inexpensive marketing...The power of the internet.

cbp · 10-14-2015, 11:24 AM

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I haven't advertised since a post card mailing I did three years ago. I may do another mailing, though, not sure. It can be cost prohibitive. My mailing list is only 2,000, which isn't bad.

Since I post free picks and live tests of my new methods on my website, it's effective and inexpensive marketing...The power of the internet.

So, you're not a winning player, yet others (at least 2000) are willing to pay you to teach them how to win?

pandy · 10-14-2015, 11:54 AM

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So, you're not a winning player, yet others (at least 2000) are willing to pay you to teach them how to win?

I've been betting horses for over 40 years and I've shown a profit over that time, so I think that's pretty good. But the proof is always there on my website. Right now the latest method I'm LIVE testing has produced an ROI of $2.44 on $2 win bets with 24% winners. And as I tweak it the results have actually improved, 7 wins in last 24 picks with these prices $44.10, $25.20, $24.80, $14.60, $10.00, $3.40, $3.20. I bet all of them and I also had the $255 exacta that was also given out for free on the website. Let's see your live picks. I'd like to see if you can show a 44% profit.

cbp · 10-14-2015, 12:10 PM

If you're winning, then why are you hawking? One would think after 40 years winning would be enough and you wouldn't have to prove yourself to anyone.

I've posted a ton of bombs. I don't need to prove anything to anyone.

pandy · 10-14-2015, 01:11 PM

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If you're winning, then why are you hawking? One would think after 40 years winning would be enough and you wouldn't have to prove yourself to anyone.

I've posted a ton of bombs. I don't need to prove anything to anyone.

I'm a racing journalist, have been since my early twenties. I've done radio, television, seminars, and, of course, writing, reporting, editing, and publishing. It's fun, I like it, I think I'm pretty good at it. I'm not a professional gambler, never intended to be. I bet everyday and I like helping others get more enjoyment out of handicapping and betting horses. Handicapping is an evolving art, as you may know. You always have to prove yourself.

PaceAdvantage · 10-14-2015, 05:01 PM

He's posted plenty of bombs...didn't you hear him?

NorCalGreg · 10-14-2015, 07:02 PM

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I haven't advertised since a post card mailing I did three years ago. I may do another mailing, though, not sure. It can be cost prohibitive. My mailing list is only 2,000, which isn't bad.

Since I post free picks and live tests of my new methods on my website, it's effective and inexpensive marketing...The power of the internet.

The reason I asked if you were still promoting your wares, Pandy....I've mentioned a few times I use the Bris Summary as a major part of my handicapping. As you know I've purchased your software (bleh) and your Pace Spot Play Paper&Pencil method (love it). I didn't even know you had a Bris Summary Method----Why? Because ya don't advertise the dang thing! I had to stumble upon it 6-7 weeks ago to purchase it.
Enough out of me LOL. Do your job, Pandy. Hire CBP to beat up dead-beats that don't wanna pay up. I'll be your Marketing Dir. Give the nice P.A. man his remittance for advertising, for the love of God have that Al Gore website updated, and I will be glad to mention how I'm NOT using the Bris Summary, and Not using your Consistent Number Method, to Not hit winners.
Good day sir!
-NCG

cbp · 10-14-2015, 08:00 PM

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He's posted plenty of bombs...didn't you hear him?

You've witnessed quite a few of them. And, I didn't need CJ to get an opinion.

cbp · 10-14-2015, 08:06 PM

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I'm a racing journalist, have been since my early twenties. I've done radio, television, seminars, and, of course, writing, reporting, editing, and publishing. It's fun, I like it, I think I'm pretty good at it. I'm not a professional gambler, never intended to be. I bet everyday and I like helping others get more enjoyment out of handicapping and betting horses. Handicapping is an evolving art, as you may know. You always have to prove yourself.

I don't know, with the exceptions of AWS, smaller fields and a lot more exotics, the game plays pretty much the same for me as it did in the 80's.

whodoyoulike · 10-14-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pandy

... It's fun, I like it, I think I'm pretty good at it. I'm not a professional gambler, never intended to be. I bet everyday and I like helping others get more enjoyment out of handicapping and betting horses. Handicapping is an evolving art, as you may know. You always have to prove yourself.

People don't understand this aspect of handicapping and betting horses or gambling in general.

I'm wondering what cbp's problem really is?