McEnroe says Serena......

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by cj

The truth is she probably couldn't beat a man ranked in the top 2000. I just don't see why it matters. Women don't have to compete against men, nor should they.

And yet...you expected Zenyatta to go out of her way to continually seek top male competition on DIRT...when the world's greatest female horses only competed successfully on a regular basis with their male counterparts, on the GRASS.

[jocko699]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

And yet...you expected Zenyatta to go out of her way to continually seek top male competition on DIRT...when the world's greatest female horses only competed successfully on a regular basis with their male counterparts, on the GRASS.

I go on record saying Zenyatta could have beaten Johnny Mac.

[cj]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

And yet...you expected Zenyatta to go out of her way to continually seek top male competition on DIRT...when the world's greatest female horses only competed successfully on a regular basis with their male counterparts, on the GRASS.

Actually no, not at all. She should have tried top males on synthetics, which is what they were running on in California at the time. She never once ran in any of the big three races for older in California while running against the same old tomato cans in the races for fillies and mares. If the surface were dirt, different story.

If you want to say that synthetics are dirt, I can't buy into that. She had already proven she could handle males on it as a 5yo.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by cj

Actually no, not at all. She should have tried top males on synthetics, which is what they were running on in California at the time. She never once ran in any of the big three races for older in California while running against the same old tomato cans in the races for fillies and mares. If the surface were dirt, different story.

If you want to say that synthetics are dirt, I can't buy into that. She had already proven she could handle males on it as a 5yo.

There wasn't one male horse in EXISTENCE who would have traveled 5 BLOCKS to meet Zenyatta on the synthetic surface. Even you yourself kept trumpeting that Zenyatta should have run more against males on the DIRT...even at the risk of losing some of those races.

[cj]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

There wasn't one male horse in EXISTENCE who would have traveled 5 BLOCKS to meet Zenyatta on the synthetic surface. Even you yourself kept trumpeting that Zenyatta should have run more against males on the DIRT...even at the risk of losing some of those races.

There were plenty of males in SoCal that were running on synthetics. It was amazing the connections kept ducking the likes of Richard's Kid. In 2010, the males that won that big 3 races were Awesome Gem, Misremembered, and Richard's Kid. What were they afraid of?

She was a fabulous horse with connections that were afraid to lose. At the end, I didn't see the point of continuing to run against tomato cans. Maybe they needed the money. If that is the case, can't blame them. She actually might have been able to beat top males on dirt had they not waited until she was nearly seven years old to try.

[Robert Fischer]

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