Obama says climate change deniers ignoring science

[davew]

Last weekend 0bama was in CA giving a graduation speech and holding a meet and greet that raised over a half million for the Democratic National Committee.

Saving the world from man-made climate change is his top priority now.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-...--finance.html

[Robert Goren]

Obama is correct, they are ignoring science. I suspect even the captains of industry who hired their own scientists know he is right just as the CEOs of the tobacco companies knew that smoke caused cancer while hiring their own paid liars back in 1960s and again in the 1990s over second hand smoke.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Obama is correct....

Correct?
He can say that with ease in California because they've had a drought and wildfires.

Try saying that in some of the New England states and their new word "POLAR VORTEX."

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Correct?
He can say that with ease in California because they've had a drought and wildfires.

Try saying that in some of the New England states and their new word "POLAR VORTEX."

It is not global warming any more, it is global climate disruption. Both the examples you cite are caused by global climate disruption, which is caused by humans.

The hurricane season is just starting in the Atlantic. There will either be more hurricanes than usual, or there will be fewer. Either result will be the result of global climate disruption. That is settled science, the debate is over. Everything bad is caused by humans.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Correct?
He can say that with ease in California because they've had a drought and wildfires.

Try saying that in some of the New England states and their new word "POLAR VORTEX."

That is climate change too. There is seems to be no normal anymore. Everything is at extremes anymore.

[reckless]

Obama ignores common sense

[Greyfox]

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Originally Posted by Clocker

It is not global warming any more, it is global climate disruption. Both the examples you cite are caused by global climate disruption, which is caused by humans.

The hurricane season is just starting in the Atlantic. There will either be more hurricanes than usual, or there will be fewer. Either result will be the result of global climate disruption. That is settled science, the debate is over. Everything bad is caused by humans.

Robert G is buying the bullshit. That's okay by me. I'm not.
The "Climate" has always been changing.
Please, Robert G and anyone else including HCap, provide a time in history when it wasn't.
You can't.
The "Global Warming" idea being sold by Al Gore and his ilk wasn't taking hold, essentially because the proofs weren't forthcoming.
(Gore, by the way, made millions of dollars on popularizing this idea.)
So "Global Warming" was changed to"Climate Change" rather conveniently, a more saleable concept.-
Yes. Climate changes. Always has, always will.
But is it man made or due to changes in the Sun's activity?
I'll bet on the Sun anyday.
And I suspect when I get up tomorrow morning, it will be there to greet me.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

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Robert G is buying the bullshit. That's okay by me. I'm not.
The "Climate" has always been changing.
Please, Robert G and anyone else including HCap, provide a time in history when it wasn't.
You can't.
The "Global Warming" idea being sold by Al Gore and his ilk wasn't taking hold, essentially because the proofs weren't forthcoming.
(Gore, by the way, made millions of dollars on popularizing this idea.)
So "Global Warming" was changed to"Climate Change" rather conveniently, a more saleable concept.-
Yes. Climate changes. Always has, always will.
But is it man made or due to changes in the Sun's activity?
I'll bet on the Sun anyday.
And I suspect when I get up tomorrow morning, it will be there to greet me.

solar flares are man made you denier you

[OntheRail]

Originally Posted by Clocker

It is not global warming any more, it is global climate disruption. Both the examples you cite are caused by global climate disruption, which is caused by humans.

The hurricane season is just starting in the Atlantic. There will either be more hurricanes than usual, or there will be fewer. Either result will be the result of global climate disruption. That is settled science, the debate is over. Everything bad is caused by humans.

I believe the Chicken Little Society... has claimed "Climate Change" as having little resonance with the common man (to much like seasonal weather). So Global Warming is back in vogue.

Mans impact on the planet... is minimal at best.

Hell they could nuke it... we may parish but the planet will spin on and out of the ooze left behind life will renew.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

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Yes. Climate changes. Always has, always will.
But is it man made or due to changes in the Sun's activity?
I'll bet on the Sun anyday.
And I suspect when I get up tomorrow morning, it will be there to greet me.

If we are experiencing global warming, then the earth is warmer that it "should" be. Why can't they tell us what it "should" be? For people, the correct temperature is 98.6 degrees. What is the correct temperature for the earth?

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

That is climate change too. There is seems to be no normal anymore. Everything is at extremes anymore.

only because you are allowing someone to tell you we are at extremes constantly. If you take a longer view of history, not so much. If you'd just take a slightly cynical approach, you'd see lots and lots of holes in those ironclad, scientific arguments. I hold no hope that you'll do that though.

[Robert Goren]

We had a small town here in Nebraska hit by 3 tornados in matter of minutes. I have never heard of that happening before. About once in a decade or so an area will get hit by 2 tornados in short period of time. Pilger was the 4th small town in Nebraska to have major tornado damage this year on different days. In the past some town in Nebraska probably gets major tornado damage about once in two years. 2 years ago it was a record hot summer here. This year it was a near record cold winter. There is no normal any more here.
I don't why anyone would think that they could dump large amounts of small particles in the air and it would not effect anything. That makes zero sense.

[davew]

in the last 300 years a couple different volcanos have erupted within 50 miles of where I am - I have never seen that in my lifetime

weather goes in cycles and always 'changes'

[FantasticDan]

Hey, a global warming thread! Lots of fresh, new arguments to be had!

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

We had a small town here in Nebraska hit by 3 tornados in matter of minutes. I have never heard of that happening before. About once in a decade or so an area will get hit by 2 tornados in short period of time. Pilger was the 4th small town in Nebraska to have major tornado damage this year on different days. In the past some town in Nebraska probably gets major tornado damage about once in two years. 2 years ago it was a record hot summer here. This year it was a near record cold winter. There is no normal any more here.
I don't why anyone would think that they could dump large amounts of small particles in the air and it would not effect anything. That makes zero sense.

you know that is weather, right??

I live in Hilton Head and we haven't been hit by a hurricane in 121 years. Is that climate change or weather??

The USA has not been hit by a major hurricane in 9 years I believe. This is a record between major hits. Is this weather or climate change??

In 2012, the DC area had the warmest winter on record. This year, it was 3rd coldest I believe. Are those weather events or climate change??

NOAA is forecasting the Arctic ice to have a major rebound this summer from recent low ice years. Is this weather or climate change??

I could give you hundreds of examples that go in both directions, but by now even you get the drift.