Obamacare death march

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

This ruling isn’t due for a year

President Biden will withdraw from trying to repeal depending on when is argued.

Allan

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

This ruling isn’t due for a year

How convenient. Right after the election sometime...

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Here in Houston you have clinics that are popping up that will only see Hispanics. They are cheap and they import drugs from Mexico. I cannot be treated there.

Are these ‘under the table’ clinics? Because I doubt you would be refused service because of your ethnicity. More likely it’s because you exceed income requirements or they don’t accept insurance.

And...If they’re importing drugs from Mexico you wouldn’t want to use them. Trust me. I have personal experience with prescription drugs in Mexico. It’s a crap shoot as to the purity/effectiveness.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

Is it possible Trump supporters of 2020 are the Never Trumpers (me) of 2016, meaning you're in denial? I admit a lot could happen between now and the election, but Trump is clearly behind at this point (you don't request additional debates when you're ahead).

For male voters, "the big issues will be the economy and probably China." That's probably a more accurate assessment. Female voters are now repelled by Trump. That's a different dynamic.

How are they more repelled now then in 2016?

You remember the famous bus video? You remember everyone talking about "how can you vote for this man and look your daughter in the face" comments?

What you're saying seems improbable.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by TJDave

I have personal experience with prescription drugs in Mexico. It’s a crap shoot as to the purity/effectiveness.

This sounds a tad racist to me...just sayin'

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

This sounds a tad racist to me...just sayin'

Not so. Just a comment on the ineffectiveness of the Mexican version of our FDA. In reality, consumer protection is nonexistent.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Are these ‘under the table’ clinics? Because I doubt you would be refused service because of your ethnicity. More likely it’s because you exceed income requirements or they don’t accept insurance.

And...If they’re importing drugs from Mexico you wouldn’t want to use them. Trust me. I have personal experience with prescription drugs in Mexico. It’s a crap shoot as to the purity/effectiveness.

http://clinicashispanass.com/nuestras-clinicas/

Their website

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by TJDave

Not so. Just a comment on the ineffectiveness of the Mexican version of our FDA. In reality, consumer protection is nonexistent.

My servers bring me back Antibiotics from Mexico. Sealed bottles etc from a distributor down there.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

How are they more repelled now then in 2016?

You remember the famous bus video? You remember everyone talking about "how can you vote for this man and look your daughter in the face" comments?

What you're saying seems improbable.

I'm not speculating. I'm relaying polling information from every major poll over the past month.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Crash your car with no insurance. Then call and try to buy some....

There other ways to handle pre-existing conditions.

You can't just sign up on the exchanges for insurance anytime of the year, as your post implies. There's an open enrollment period; that's when you sign up. Outside of that, you can only sign up if there's a life event (e.g., marriage/baby).

Cigna (CI) and Anthem (ANTH) are two of the largest managed-care players, offering ACA-compliant private insurance plans. Pull up their stock charts --take a look since the ACA rollout. Something is going right. If the pre-existing requirements under the ACA were so onerous to make the business unprofitable, they simply wouldn't participate.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

You can't just sign up on the exchanges for insurance anytime of the year, as your post implies. There's an open enrollment period; that's when you sign up. Outside of that, you can only sign up if there's a life event (e.g., marriage/baby).

Cigna (CI) and Anthem (ANTH) are two of the largest managed-care players, offering ACA-compliant private insurance plans. Pull up their stock charts --take a look since the ACA rollout. Something is going right. If the pre-existing requirements under the ACA were so oneous to make the business unprofitable, they simply wouldn't participate.

Very true.

It's time that insurance and pharma companies are held accountable
for pricing their product so it's more affordable for everyone.
Far too many politicians, largely conservative, have been bought by them.

Consequently, these companies have been allowed to extort and overprice
for decades. The ones that are now effective and competitive will flourish,
like those mentioned above.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Very true.

It's time that insurance and pharma companies are held accountable
for pricing their product so it's more affordable for everyone.
Far too many politicians, largely conservative, have been bought by them.

Consequently, these companies have been allowed to extort and overprice
for decades. The ones that are now effective and competitive will flourish,
like those mentioned above.

That's where we part. I don't take issue with managed-care companies making a reasonable profit, and remember the MLRs (medical loss ratios, or how much must be spent on patient care) on exchange products are regulated. But I do think drug re-importation from countries like Canada makes sense. Right now, American pharma consumers subsidize the rest of the world. Our pharma prices need come down, while prices for the rest of the world probably need to move up.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

Very true.

It's time that insurance and pharma companies are held accountable
for pricing their product so it's more affordable for everyone.
Far too many politicians, largely conservative, have been bought by them.

Consequently, these companies have been allowed to extort and overprice
for decades. The ones that are now effective and competitive will flourish,
like those mentioned above.

Wow!

[Saratoga_Mike]

Oklahoma voters approve Medicaid expansion as coronavirus cases climb
The state is the first to expand Medicaid during the pandemic.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...andemic-346681

This is part of "Obamacare."

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Tom

Absolutely not, because we got what be wanted when we voted for Trump.

YOU guys deny all the good thing he has done, and the list is long and very good.

Myself, I laugh at you and hcap types because you keep telling how stupid we are for following Trump - but WE see it as he MORE than fulfilled his promises, as much as he could with zero help from the left.

WE think of it as continuing the progress, the likes of which we have not seen in decades.
YOU guys keep saying how bad he is, BUT you can't list anything bad he done - just focus on stupid tweets and talk. WE HAVE REALITY.
And we have faith that the majority of Americans are far too smart to buy into the dems and Biden BS.

July 1, 2020 ADD to the list the new trade deals kicks in today.

#STILLWINNING