Run up distances

[cj]

Originally Posted by andymays

I'm not sure what your saying. Is Equibase right or is Emerald Downs right?

What I am saying is you don't have to ask. Just go watch the REPLAYS and see for yourself.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by cj

What I am saying is you don't have to ask. Just go watch the REPLAYS and see for yourself.

We're Talking about a lot of tracks around the country that this affects. I have an email to Equibase asking them where they get their data for the run ups.

[cj]

I already answered that in another thread, they get it from the chart caller. I find it hard to believe the chart caller is going to lie. If so, why make up various distances for the run up, just report the same one. But again, I haven't watched yet to see.

You could know who is right and who is wrong in five minutes rather than firing off emails and waiting for self serving replies.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by cj

I already answered that in another thread, they get it from the chart caller. I find it hard to believe the chart caller is going to lie. If so, why make up various distances for the run up, just report the same one. But again, I haven't watched yet to see.

You could know who is right and who is wrong in five minutes rather than firing off emails and waiting for self serving replies.

CJ nothing surprises me anymore. I initially thought Equibase was right but now I'm not so sure. It seems like every time I look into something after assuming something I get a surprise. I want to get these people on the record with their emails so I can post them for all to see. With a couple more days of information I may be able to get someone to write an article on this stuff.

[cj]

OK, so I took the Saturday card and looked them up and watched the replays:

Distance-runup:

8.0 25
6.0 40
6.5 24
6.0 40
5.5 60
6.5 24
6.0 40
6.5 24
6.0 40

If I had to make a bet, I would bet on the chart caller. There are clearly differences in the run up between the 5.5, 6, and 6.5f races. No way are they all "approximately" 50 feet.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by cj

OK, so I took the Saturday card and looked them up and watched the replays:

Distance-runup:

8.0 25
6.0 40
6.5 24
6.0 40
5.5 60
6.5 24
6.0 40
6.5 24
6.0 40

If I had to make a bet, I would bet on the chart caller. There are clearly differences in the run up between the 5.5, 6, and 6.5f races. No way are they all "approximately" 50 feet.

You are probably right. The one run up that surprises me is the Mile run up. Most two turn mile tracks have longer run ups for mile races because of the short distance to the first turn.

[cj]

It looked pretty accurate, not much of a run up.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by cj

It looked pretty accurate, not much of a run up.

Since you seem to know what to look for what exactly are you looking for when measuring the run up?

[Charlie D]

At a gues, Chart caller will probably use the rail posts

[andymays]

Originally Posted by Charlie D

Chart caller will probably use the rail posts

Aren't we looking for the point from the starting gate where the timer is placed and tripped?

[cj]

It is pretty easy to see the gate and the poles and eyeball the distance, and using the rails helps in some instances.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by cj

It is pretty easy to see the gate and the poles and eyeball the distance, and using the rails helps in some instances.

The timer is always place on or near the poles?

[Charlie D]

Originally Posted by andymays

Aren't we looking for the point from the starting gate where the timer is placed and tripped?

You are. I'm just guessing the spacing of the rail posts is what the chart caller uses to estimate the run up.


Someone like CJ however, may know otherwise

[cj]

Originally Posted by andymays

The timer is always place on or near the poles?

Dude, you are making this WAY too complicated. If they are timing a 6f race, the timer will be at the 6f pole. Same for a mile, and any other distance. Now, odd distances like 1m70y will be tougher, but the standard ones just aren't this tough. EmD is wrong.

[andymays]

Originally Posted by cj

Dude, you are making this WAY too complicated. If they are timing a 6f race, the timer will be at the 6f pole. Same for a mile, and any other distance. Now, odd distances like 1m70y will be tougher, but the standard ones just aren't this tough. EmD is wrong.

Thanks for taking the time to give me the info. I appreciate it! There was also a 20 foot discrepancy with Churchill at 6F. Equibase said it was 100 ft and Churchill says it's 80 feet!