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04-29-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
Sorry, but I don't know what it is like to be "non-existent" either.
Is that even possible?
The entire philosophy of Existentialism has existence at it's core.
Sartre and others would puzzle at that comment.
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Existentialism of Sartre is incompatible with Christianity.
His thesis of "existence precedes essence." According to existentialism, "man is nothing else than what he makes of himself." Since there is no God to design man, man has no blueprint, no essence. His essence or nature comes not from God as Creator but from his own free choice.
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
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04-29-2017, 05:40 PM
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Anyone ever read this book?
Didn't think so. Carry on.
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04-29-2017, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lose The Juice
Anyone ever read this book?
Didn't think so. Carry on. |
I did.
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
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04-29-2017, 06:50 PM
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I get the sinking sense it may have made no impression on you, but I'm always willing to be surprised.
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04-29-2017, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lose The Juice
I get the sinking sense it may have made no impression on you, but I'm always willing to be surprised.
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In what way?
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
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04-29-2017, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Existentialism of Sartre is incompatible with Christianity.
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Even so, the term non-existent would be meaningless to them and most Christians, Jews, Hindus and Muslims as well, I suspect.
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04-29-2017, 06:53 PM
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BTW, Lose The Juice, here is another view about Tiso.
COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA
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With the aid of Marxist sympathisers, the Communists succeeded in painting a picture in Western minds of Tiso being a rabid racist. So today when news items concerning anti-Semitic acts in Slovakia are recalled, readers presume that Tiso was responsible. It is therefore necessary to provide examples of how ignorance of the background to events was used by the Communists to defame Tiso.
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http://www.churchinhistory.org/pages...o-maligned.htm
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
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04-29-2017, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
Even so, the term non-existent would be meaningless to them and most Christians, Jews, Hindus and Muslims as well, I suspect.
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It shouldn't be a foreign concept for Christians:
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Galatians 2:20
If anyone wishes to come after me", he said, "he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me (Lk 9:23)
The beatitudes are the spiritual road map.
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
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04-29-2017, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
It shouldn't be a foreign concept for Christians:
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Galatians 2:20
If anyone wishes to come after me", he said, "he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me (Lk 9:23)
The beatitudes are the spiritual road map.
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Denying oneself to take up the cross and being non-existent are different concepts in my vocabulary.
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04-29-2017, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
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Good god, they must have hanged him as a war criminal for jaywalking:
"Thus, vain is the charge that it is unchristian to attack Jews..."
https://books.google.com/books?id=-n...20jews&f=false
What a sweetheart!!
How 'bout Jasenovac? Ever hear of that? Guess who participated in the mass killing of Jews and Orthodox Serbs there.
Hindus? Sikh Gurus? Buddhist Monks? Jains? Zoroastrians?
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04-29-2017, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lose The Juice
Good god, they must have hanged him as a war criminal for jaywalking:
"Thus, vain is the charge that it is unchristian to attack Jews..."
https://books.google.com/books?id=-n...20jews&f=false
What a sweetheart!!
How 'bout Jasenovac? Ever hear of that? Guess who participated in the mass killing of Jews and Orthodox Serbs there.
Hindus? Sikh Gurus? Buddhist Monks? Jains? Zoroastrians? |
Leaving now, will respond later. But I am not interested in rehashing WWll.
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A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
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04-29-2017, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Well, please allow this uneducated guy to ask you: What part of BEFORE (as in before the time of Abraham's birth) don't you get in Jn 8:58?
And what part of BEFORE don't you get in Jn 17:5 -- as in BEFORE the TIME of the world...
Do you even know what "before" means? Would the definition "at an earlier time" sound reasonable? Or simply "previously"?
And why did the Jews want to kill Jesus right on the spot after claiming he was I AM? Who was Jesus claiming to be?
And what part of BEFORE don't you get in Jn 17:5 -- as in BEFORE the TIME of the world...?
Do you even know what "before" means? Would the definition "at an earlier time" sound reasonable? Or simply "previously"?
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How is this even remotely related to what I said? I have no idea what you are talking about.
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04-29-2017, 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyfox
Sorry, but I don't know what it is like to be "non-existent" either.
Is that even possible?
The entire philosophy of Existentialism has existence at it's core.
Sartre and others would puzzle at that comment.
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Stop embarrassing yourself. If you are this clueless, you shouldn't respond.
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04-29-2017, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Light
How is this even remotely related to what I said? I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Of course you don't. Your entire previous response was a non sequitur to my 1031, having absolutely nothing to do with the context of the passages I quoted and the arguments I presented.
Questions for you: Is perfect unity possible in this universe? If not, why? But if so, how?
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04-29-2017, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Leaving now, will respond later. But I am not interested in rehashing WWll.
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"WWII," eh? The six million Jews murdered in the very heart of Christendom were... COMBATANTS?
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