The welfare caravan

[hcap]

Trump’s Own Team Knows His Caravan Claims Are Bullshit
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...ticularly-care

Donald Trump and his political allies have embarked on an aggressive, end-of-the-campaign effort to drum up fear among voters about a caravan of poor migrants several thousand miles from the U.S.-Mexico border. Much of it is mistruths and embellishments, but Trumpland could care less.

“It doesn’t matter if it’s 100 percent accurate,” a senior Trump administration official told The Daily Beast. “This is the play.”

Over the past few days, Trump has issued cryptic warnings about the southern border being overrun. His vice president has amplified baseless accusations that terrorists may have infiltrated the group of—largely—Honduran asylum seekers. And conservative media have provided ’round-the-clock coverage of what they depict as a mob gaining in size and steam.



Youse guys will believe anything

[FakeNameChanged]

Originally Posted by boxcar

"Asylum" from what specifically? You're not suggesting that the invaders' homelands are 3rd rate countries, are you?

By the way, do you know that the primary definition for "asylum" is that it is "an inviolable place of refuge and protection giving shelter to criminals and debtors" per my mighty fine M-W Collegiate Dictionary.

Of course, another definition down the list is "an institution" for the care of the destitute or sick and especially the insane".

Are these the kinds of people we're welcoming with open arms in the name of "compassion"? We just should let them in because they show up on our doorstep?

Let them apply for their visas at the U.S. embassy in their country of origin. That's how civilized people do it. Civilized people don't go on invasions to get into another country.

And by the way, how come these people don't want "asylum" in Mexico? Should we interpret that choice as being their equally low opinion of Mexico that they have for their own homeland from which they are seeking "refuge"?

Do they somehow look less threatening, or different when they come here en masse on a ship or a boat? Pics I've seen of those folks looked pretty destitute as well.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

The troops are needed did you see them to overrun the border
in Mexico?

Ah, the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.
Facts.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Trump’s Own Team Knows His Caravan Claims Are Bullshit
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...ticularly-care

Donald Trump and his political allies have embarked on an aggressive, end-of-the-campaign effort to drum up fear among voters about a caravan of poor migrants several thousand miles from the U.S.-Mexico border. Much of it is mistruths and embellishments, but Trumpland could care less.

“It doesn’t matter if it’s 100 percent accurate,” a senior Trump administration official told The Daily Beast. “This is the play.”

Over the past few days, Trump has issued cryptic warnings about the southern border being overrun. His vice president has amplified baseless accusations that terrorists may have infiltrated the group of—largely—Honduran asylum seekers. And conservative media have provided ’round-the-clock coverage of what they depict as a mob gaining in size and steam.



Youse guys will believe anything

So...where are these thousands of "refugees" headed to, if not the U.S.?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Whosonfirst

Do they somehow look less threatening, or different when they come here en masse on a ship or a boat? Pics I've seen of those folks looked pretty destitute as well.

90% of the world's population is poverty-stricken...so, what is your point exactly?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

So...where are these thousands of "refugees" headed to, if not the U.S.?

It is easier to pitch garbage by grosdsly exaggeration, rather than fabricating garbage out of whole cloth as you tend to do.

Might help you with your biblical fables

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

Ah, the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.

You guys related?

[Tom]

1. They are not citizens
2. They do not have permission to enter our country.

End of debate.

[Ocala Mike]

[QUOTE=boxcar;2392303]

Are these the kinds of people we're welcoming with open arms in the name of "compassion"? We just should let them in because they show up on our doorstep?

[/QUOTE}

Very Christian of you - I suggest a rereading of Deuteronomy 10:19 and Leviticus 19:33.

"And you are to love those who are foreigners." "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them."

If Christ returned to walk the earth today, the first place he'd head for is the caravan (or do you believe it would be a Trump rally?)

[Tom]

Separation of Church and State.
If Jesus were to walk the Earth today, he would probably go to Central America and throw the corrupt governments out of their palaces and the drug lord out of their compounds for preying on his people.

How many, in the name of God Almighty, are YOU talking in to YOUR house?

Talk is cheap.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

It is easier to pitch garbage by grosdsly exaggeration, rather than fabricating garbage out of whole cloth as you tend to do.

Might help you with your biblical fables

What would really help is that you beg, borrow, steal, rent or buy a clue.

What percent of the world is in poverty?
At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day. More than 80 percent of the world's population lives in countries where income differentials are widening. The poorest 40 percent of the world's population accounts for 5 percent of global income.

https://www.google.com/search?client...30.QARyRYK6llE

Methinks my 90% number is a lot closer to the truth than whatever fable you had in mind.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

Separation of Church and State.
If Jesus were to walk the Earth today, he would probably go to Central America and throw the corrupt governments out of their palaces and the drug lord out of their compounds for preying on his people.

How many, in the name of God Almighty, are YOU talking in to YOUR house?

Talk is cheap.

Maybe he is bringing a blue wave to start?

I guess you can't take too many in your house.
800 lb gorillas take up a lot of room

[Tom]

I don't HAVE to take any in my house.
I am not the one yelling let them in and then letting others pay for it.

More talky, still no walky.

[boxcar]

[quote=Ocala Mike;2392329]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Are these the kinds of people we're welcoming with open arms in the name of "compassion"? We just should let them in because they show up on our doorstep?

[/QUOTE}

Very Christian of you - I suggest a rereading of Deuteronomy 10:19 and Leviticus 19:33.

"And you are to love those who are foreigners." "When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them."

If Christ returned to walk the earth today, the first place he'd head for is the caravan (or do you believe it would be a Trump rally?)

Yeah...what you are very conveniently overlooking is that "foreigners" who wanted to settle in Israel were bound to keep the Law of Moses. In other words, assimilation wasn't an option.

And there's nothing in the bible about any country doing a mass migration into the Promised Land. Invasion by enemies of Israel...yes! Even forced mass exodus out of the Promised Land. But no mass migration.

Anything else you want to know? I'm a paragon of biblical knowledge, you know?

[Buckeye]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

Our fathers and forefathers traveled halfway around the world to protect the borders of other sovereign Nations.May the Lord help us as we seem unwilling to help ourselves.

You're right about Normandy and many other places, but before that at Valley Forge and Gettysburg. The United States of America is not the greatest country in the world by accident.