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06-20-2018, 01:45 PM
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Scratches
Does any track have more daily scratches than what we have in NY?
Track Fast and Firm - nice day with no rain.
First race today - 7 entered - two scratched - 5 horse race
Second race - 8 entered - two scratched - 6 horse race
Fifth race - 9 entered - two scratched
Eighth race - 11 entered - FIVE scratched - 6 horse race
How can so many horses every day be allowed to enter and scratch from races?
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I've been watching harness now five nights a week and there are hardly ANY scratches.
Last edited by Denny; 06-20-2018 at 01:48 PM.
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06-20-2018, 01:53 PM
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#107
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Welcome to life with Martin Panza as your racing "secretary."
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06-20-2018, 03:45 PM
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#108
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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The casino-elevated purses have done wonders for the NY racing product.
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"Theory is knowledge that doesn't work. Practice is when everything works and you don't know why."
-- Hermann Hesse
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06-20-2018, 04:37 PM
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#109
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,880
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prioress Ply
Yeah--anyone who gets out because the sport stinks to high heaven is ridiculed and ostracized.
Says quite a bit about the people who choose to stay in.
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I know what it says about the people who get out. That's for sure.
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06-20-2018, 04:39 PM
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#110
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prioress Ply
Welcome to life with Martin Panza as your racing "secretary."
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Yeah, I know. I remember all the posts from you about it being PARADISE before Marty got there...
You're a riot Alice.
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06-20-2018, 06:05 PM
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#111
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Join Date: Jun 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I know what it says about the people who get out. That's for sure.
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Oh really what does it say, Mr. Oracle? Do tell.
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06-20-2018, 06:06 PM
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#112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Yeah, I know. I remember all the posts from you about it being PARADISE before Marty got there...
You're a riot Alice.
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I don't remember so many fake entries, scratches and complaining from regular NYRA horseplayers before Marty came.
But I'm sure he's quite grateful to have such an athletic supporter in the ranks.
Last edited by Prioress Ply; 06-20-2018 at 06:08 PM.
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06-20-2018, 06:07 PM
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#113
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prioress Ply
Oh really what does it say, Mr. Oracle? Do tell.
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It says they suck at picking winners almost as much as I do. That's what it says, genius.
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06-20-2018, 06:18 PM
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#114
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Join Date: Jun 2017
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Au contraire Monsieur, it is you that are genius.
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06-20-2018, 06:33 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prioress Ply
Au contraire Monsieur, it is you that are genius.
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No no no. You have all the answers. You're the dark shadowy figure roaming about, correcting the record.
This forum gets funnier by the second, especially when you pop up every now and then.
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06-20-2018, 07:58 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2017
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PJ Campo has less trouble filling races for GP than Panza for NYRA.
The daily scratch totals in NY seem out of control.
Do they think the fans don't notice what's going on?
Or do they just not care anymore?
Plenty of free money to pay expenses (purses) and fewer owners and trainers to split the winnings. Everybody is happy.
5 horse races with only 1 not getting paid. What a racket for horsemen.
Great compensation, benefits, and retirement for executives, employees, and talent too.
What a racket for everyone.
Last edited by Denny; 06-20-2018 at 07:59 PM.
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06-20-2018, 08:23 PM
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#117
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Denny
Does any track have more daily scratches than what we have in NY?
Track Fast and Firm - nice day with no rain.
First race today - 7 entered - two scratched - 5 horse race
Second race - 8 entered - two scratched - 6 horse race
Fifth race - 9 entered - two scratched
Eighth race - 11 entered - FIVE scratched - 6 horse race
How can so many horses every day be allowed to enter and scratch from races?
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I've been watching harness now five nights a week and there are hardly ANY scratches.
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I bet NY every day and wish the entries were stronger, but to be fair 7 of the scratches today were due to Main track only or AE entries. That leaves 4 remaining scratches from the card.
Tony
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06-20-2018, 08:34 PM
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#118
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Denny
PJ Campo has less trouble filling races for GP than Panza for NYRA.
The daily scratch totals in NY seem out of control.
Do they think the fans don't notice what's going on?
Or do they just not care anymore?
Plenty of free money to pay expenses (purses) and fewer owners and trainers to split the winnings. Everybody is happy.
5 horse races with only 1 not getting paid. What a racket for horsemen.
Great compensation, benefits, and retirement for executives, employees, and talent too.
What a racket for everyone.
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PJ Campo used to be Martin Panza. I heard the same crap back then too when he was in charge.
Oh, and they had the casino when Campo was around too.
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06-24-2018, 05:39 PM
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#119
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Join Date: Oct 2017
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Tony,
Still, if you're using MTO's to fill races and make tham go, somrthing is wrong.
PA,
You can thank me for this thread and all the attention it's gotten.
More than 100 comments, clost 8,000 views.
As have several other threads I've started here.
All this for you from someone you consider to be so bad, you curse me out on several threads.
You can go to Hell.
Delete everything I've given you for the last 8 months.
There won't be any more coming.
You can go eff yourself too!
You're a low life with bad manners.
To everybody else - minus Tom The Chimp.
Thank you.
Denny
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06-24-2018, 08:09 PM
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#120
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I think it's a matter of deciding what criteria is important to you and choosing only those tracks that fulfill that to invest your wagering dollars. check all that on the HANA website
My local is Oaklawn and checks all the boxes for me for Live Racing. It is getting a bit crowded there now so I buy season reserved parking, but rarely buy seats because I like to be outdoors or down at the live paddocks. .
I play Hong Kong in the evenings when I feel like staying up late. I like Prairie Meadows, too. I think I might try to learn KY Downs next year.
I don't play many tracks anymore, and certainly not where I'm only going to get exacta payouts in the 'teens and sub-teens.
I concentrate on those where I am very familiar with the track, the jockey and trainer colonies. I think stepping too far outside of that is a good way to lose $$.
So, sticking with 3 U.S. tracks works for me.
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