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Old 05-10-2022, 03:35 PM   #46
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Regardless of cell phone pings, what about the videos? I believe that by law each voter can only put one envelope into a dropbox. There are videos of people putting a whole bunch of envelopes into a dropbox, all late at night when no one is around.
Not only that but all the droppers were wearing gloves! And many droppers were taking pictures of their drops. But...nothing to see here. Nothing to worry about. This is is all normal in a liberal's universe.
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Old 05-10-2022, 06:30 PM   #47
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I heard...not sure if it's true...there was a court case or investigation where votes were not allowed because the envelopes had the same fingerprints on them..after they were disqualified ..the next day the drop box stuffers were wearing surgical gloves. Makes sense to me.
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Old 05-10-2022, 07:17 PM   #48
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I heard...not sure if it's true...there was a court case or investigation where votes were not allowed because the envelopes had the same fingerprints on them..after they were disqualified ..the next day the drop box stuffers were wearing surgical gloves. Makes sense to me.
Yes, that case was mentioned in the vid. So...the crooks learn from each others' mistakes.
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Old 05-14-2022, 01:07 AM   #49
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Just analyzing the numbers was enough for me to be convinced the election was stolen.

Just the fact that old Joe got more votes than any candidate in history, while hiding out in his basement and Trump lost despite getting more votes than when he won in 2016 was enough proof for me.

Magically winning overnight with just enough votes in swing states only ??? C'MON MAN!!!!
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Old 05-14-2022, 02:53 AM   #50
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Old 05-14-2022, 08:27 AM   #51
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You ask how I can spend so much time on this forum making you and the others look like such fools. The answer is simple. I’m retired. I have a lot of free time. It’s not that difficult.

I definitely don’t crave your attention, but I love proving you wrong regardless of if you realize that you are wrong.
You only "prove" it to yourself and the few here who agree with you. Maybe even to some of those many friends of yours, or so they let you believe. But I've rarely seen you make others look foolish on the forum ('never' is too strong a word.) You do show how absolutely desperate you are to justify your feelings, though.

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Old 05-14-2022, 10:14 AM   #52
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You choose what to believe. We all do. You get laughed at because you are such a tee-totaler. So much going wrong all around us...and the Globe...yet after 16 months in Office you actually believe that the trouble lies with either the previous Administration (remember, 16 months) or external forces. Nothing lies at the feet of any of your Leaders. Nothing. The best part of it is you don't see the writing on the wall. That will fix itself...soon.

As for you calling me an Idiot...that is rich, coming from somebody who actually thinks the Country as a whole wants what has gone on here in the last year and a half. 81,000,000+ voted for Biden. Nobody in their right mind believes he has the support of those same 81,000,000+ now...unless you think that even the Polls from Liberal Sources are lying. From your point of view...I understand your anger. Vanquished the Evil Trump. Have a Democrat-Controlled Congress. COVID Vaccines teed up. The Economy was turning around. And instead of continuing that momentum...nope...had to go in a different direction. His call as President. But...understand that when he chose that...that, just like me, he didn't give a Shit about YOU. Neither did, or does, your Democrat-controlled Congress. And you worship this Shit. Yet I am the "MAGA nitwit".

So, yeah, you...or no other Liberal Idiot...is convincing me of anything. That is because, as a Conservative...I don't need...and don't want...the Government intruding in my Life...or my business. I do for myself, think for myself...and deal with the consequences. Funny that you call me an "Idiot" and a "MAGA nitwit"...I will stack ANY aspect of my Life against yours any time you want.

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Old 05-14-2022, 10:29 AM   #53
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Looks like some folks don't know the meaning of the word 'teetotaler'.

Why am I not surprised?
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Old 05-14-2022, 10:37 AM   #54
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https://www.jan-6.com/2000-mules?gcl...iAAEgLz7PD_BwE

From the link.

The film “2000 Mules” uses a flawed analysis of cell phone geo-location data and ballot drop box surveillance footage to try and prove election fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

And: The movie’s evidence is a combination of anonymous accounts and improper analysis of cell phone location data, which is not precise enough to confirm that somebody deposited a ballot into a drop box.

A cellphone can be tracked to an area but not a specific location. Every cellphone that goes near a drop box doesn’t necessarily indicate that person was dropping off ballots.
As boxes are in busy areas, the likelihood of innocent citizens driving by is very high, especially delivery drivers, postal workers, cab drivers, poll workers and elected officials who all have legitimate reasons to cross paths with numerous drop boxes or nonprofits in a given day.

Since the cellphone data is anonymized, there is no way to connect the persons in the video with the cellphone data. And there is no way to tell if the people in the video ate mules or simply people legally dropping off ballots for family members or for other legitimate reasons.

CLAIM: In Philadelphia alone, True the Vote identified 1,155 “mules” who illegally collected and dropped off ballots for money.

THE FACTS: No, it didn’t. The group hasn’t offered any evidence of any sort of paid ballot harvesting scheme in Philadelphia. And True the Vote did not get surveillance footage of drop boxes in Philadelphia, so the group based this claim solely on cellphone location data, its researcher Gregg Phillips said in March in testimony to Pennsylvania state senators.

As we said, cellphone data indicates you were in the neighborhood not what you were doing there.

If a cellphone went near a drop box more than 10 times and a nonprofit more than five times from Oct. 1 to Election Day, True the Vote assumed its owner was a “mule” — its name for someone engaged in an illegal ballot collection scheme in cahoots with a nonprofit.

Oct 1 to Election Day was at least 33 days. Since drop boxes are logically going to be placed in busy areas, it would not be surprising to find many people who would pass by a drop box many times

Summarizing; geolocation is not precise enough to place. A phone at a drop box. Depositing multiple ballots is no proof of ballot harvesting. The makers of 2000 Mules know these things but choose to ignore them in favor of partisan politics.
not sure where you got this crap, but you might as well stated it is a racist, sexist, homophobic conspiracy theory designed to undermine the most secure election EVER for the president that got the most ballots EVER
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Looks like some folks don't know the meaning of the word 'teetotaler'.

Why am I not surprised?

A person who abstains from alcohol, that would not be me.
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Old 05-14-2022, 11:06 AM   #56
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not sure where you got this crap, but you might as well stated it is a racist, sexist, homophobic conspiracy theory designed to undermine the most secure election EVER for the president that got the most ballots EVER
From the AP.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...k-ballot-mules

Debunking the debunkers

https://yournews.com/2022/05/11/2342...-ap-hit-piece/
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Old 05-14-2022, 11:52 AM   #57
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Looks like some folks don't know the meaning of the word 'teetotaler'.

Why am I not surprised?
How do you define "teetotaler"? Mostpost has stated that he does not drink alcohol, at all.
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Old 05-14-2022, 12:19 PM   #58
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Good point in that debunking the debunkers piece.

This wasn't a Democrat-only scheme.

There were PLENTY of powerful, non-Democrat "Never Trumpers" still lurking about who had ZERO problem seeing Joe Biden elected POTUS...they were in on it as well...obviously...
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Good point in that debunking the debunkers piece.

This wasn't a Democrat-only scheme.

There were PLENTY of powerful, non-Democrat "Never Trumpers" still lurking about who had ZERO problem seeing Joe Biden elected POTUS...they were in on it as well...obviously...
Yes, there is a long list of high ranking state RINO's in the swing states that helped. Conservatives should have seen something like this coming. If they fool us twice I don't think there is any hope for this country. Reagan was right that tyranny is only a generation away.
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