Religion II

[Light]

Originally Posted by boxcar

The culture of sin that was pervasive in Noah's day and that adversely affected everyone's thoughts and intents and, therefore, all their thoughts, words and deeds deserved divine judgment.

So how come you support sinful Trump? He broke one of the 10 commandments:
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

He is known to be as bad in that department as many in Noah's day which God didn't like and flooded out of existence. Actually he's worse. In Noah's day, nobody separated parents from children on a mass scale. An unimaginable cruelty back then.

So its OK with you to exterminate certain people with Divine judgement but you make exceptions for others who sin even worse? Who are you loyal to? God or Trump?

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Did I make any comparisons between eras? I never said that it was the worst time in human history.

You said that the "culture of sin" during Noah's time was such that it warranted God's ultimate decision to exterminate mankind. And I ask...how can you know that? Was the "culture of sin" then, worse than it is NOW?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

You said that the "culture of sin" during Noah's time was such that it warranted God's ultimate decision to exterminate mankind. And I ask...how can you know that? Was the "culture of sin" then, worse than it is NOW?

Again...I didn't make any comparisons. I go only with what scripture says. However, since there were only eight people saved, I would think this represented a very, very tiny percentage of the population at that time. If this is true, then from just a quantitative standpoint, sin was pervasive throughout virtually the entire population at that time.

But also, come to think of it, there was an aspect to the world's wickedness at that time that I think did differ qualitatively from this present time. But what I have in mind involves a big part of what I'm studying at the moment about unseen supernatural forces, so I'm going to defer commenting further on this until I do my homework.

Stay tuned...

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Light

So how come you support sinful Trump? He broke one of the 10 commandments:
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

He is known to be as bad in that department as many in Noah's day which God didn't like and flooded out of existence. Actually he's worse. In Noah's day, nobody separated parents from children on a mass scale. An unimaginable cruelty back then.

So its OK with you to exterminate certain people with Divine judgement but you make exceptions for others who sin even worse? Who are you loyal to? God or Trump?

Here's a newsflash for you: ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23).

Second newsflash: Trump, and everyone else in this world have broken more than one commandment.

Third newsflash: If anyone did manage however to break only one of God's Laws, that person would still be held accountable to all the Law (Jas 2:10).

Fourth newsflash: You have no clue what sins were imaginable or unimaginable back then. Genesis 6 tells us that the thoughts and intents of people's heart were evil CONTINUALLY. It also tells us that the earth was filled with violence. You have no idea what parents could have been doing to their little beloved kiddies. Maybe the ancient Israelites emulated their prediluvian ancestors by burning them alive in the fire as sacrifices to their gods (Deut 12:31; Jer 7:31; 19:5; 2Ki 17:17; 2Chron 28:3; Ps 106:37-38, etc.) After, all there appeared to be a considerable amount interaction between earthly prediluvians and demons.

Fifth newsflash: I haven't exterminated anyone. God did.

Sixth newsflash: If I had to wait to vote for a sinless person, I could never vote per first and second newsflashes and -- "For there is none righteous, no not one" ( Rom 3:10).

Are you done bellyaching?

[Light]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Here's a newsflash for you: ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23).

Second newsflash: Trump, and everyone else in this world have broken more than one commandment.

Third newsflash: If anyone did manage however to break only one of God's Laws, that person would still be held accountable to all the Law (Jas 2:10).

Whoa there cowboy! Where is your condemnation? Why are you DEFENDING sin NOW. You don't treat people on this board so dismissively of sin. You've condemned us all to Hell. Why isn't Trump going to Hell? Can you be any clearer in your hypocrisy?

Originally Posted by boxcar

You have no idea what parents could have been doing to their little beloved kiddies.

Like what? You are quickly sinking to the low level of the one you are defending. This is how one trades their soul for the world as Jesus told us NOT to do.

Originally Posted by boxcar

Sixth newsflash: If I had to wait to vote for a sinless person, I could never vote per first and second newsflashes and -- "For there is none righteous, no not one" ( Rom 3:10).

You never answered who you are loyal to, God or Trump. It is clear now from your silence Trump is your loyalty and overrides the laws of God you preach, when necessary to defend your position. The passes you give Trump but not to others shows you use God as a weapon to prop up Trump.

My allegiance is to God. I have never voted for a President since I turned 21 and just wanted to see what it is like back then. But since then I cannot vote for any president in good conscience because I know they will ALL kill innocent people while in office or do something sacrilegious. I do not want my vote (Karma) connected to a president who has blood on his hands.

If you had any backbone in practicing what you preach, you would be more wise to follow God than man. And you would be doubly wise to not turn a blind eye on all of God's creations. Not just those approved by your lord and master, Donald J. Trump.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Light

Whoa there cowboy! Where is your condemnation? Why are you DEFENDING sin NOW. You don't treat people on this board so dismissively of sin. You've condemned us all to Hell. Why isn't Trump going to Hell? Can you be any clearer in your hypocrisy?




Like what? You are quickly sinking to the low level of the one you are defending. This is how one trades their soul for the world as Jesus told us NOT to do.



You never answered who you are loyal to, God or Trump. It is clear now from your silence Trump is your loyalty and overrides the laws of God you preach, when necessary to defend your position. The passes you give Trump but not to others shows you use God as a weapon to prop up Trump.

My allegiance is to God. I have never voted for a President since I turned 21 and just wanted to see what it is like back then. But since then I cannot vote for any president in good conscience because I know they will ALL kill innocent people while in office or do something sacrilegious. I do not want my vote (Karma) connected to a president who has blood on his hands.

If you had any backbone in practicing what you preach, you would be more wise to follow God than man. And you would be doubly wise to not turn a blind eye on all of God's creations. Not just those approved by your lord and master, Donald J. Trump.

I haven't defended anyone. I gave you six reasons, which is far more than your dumb post deserved to begin with. You don't like them? Tough.

By the way, your real allegiance is to Buddha who you think is just as unique as Christ.

And since you haven't voted since the tender age of 21, what right do you have to complain about about what any elected official does? Maybe you should have voted for the other guy or gal or LGQBT...whatever. But since you didn't express your political voice at the election ballot, then quit waxing like a smug, self-righteous, sanctimonious, holier-than-thou wanna-be enlightened holy man, after the votes are tallied.

You sound just like the self-righteous Pharisee who looked down his condescending snout with contempt at the sinner who was praying next to him.

Luke 18:9-14
9And He also told this parable to certain ones who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt: 10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee, and the other a tax-gatherer. 11 "The Pharisee stood and was praying thus to himself, 'God, I thank Thee that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax-gatherer. 12 'I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.' 13 "But the tax-gatherer, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, the sinner!' 14 "I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself shall be humbled, but he who humbles himself shall be exalted."
NASB

You see...in Noah's day, there were no repentant "tax gatherers" who humbled themselves before God, so God gave them what they deserved. But Trump is sill alive to serve God's sovereign purpose -- the Sovereign King of the universe who works all things after the counsel of His own will, including raising up rulers and taking them down! Perhaps Trump will one day come to his senses and repent of his sins. But even if he doesn't, Trump would not be in office if he hadn't received his authority from on high -- whether he knows that or not. (Pontius Pilate certainly didn't know this but Jesus straightened him out on that point!)

[hcap]

More from the article I posted...
Another religious leader giving their King a pass.....

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/4-f...nts-trump-era/

2. Robert Jeffress

When President Bill Clinton had an extramarital affair with intern Monica Lewinsky in the 1990s, the Christian Right declared that he was unfit for the presidency. But Robert Jeffress, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas, is much more forgiving where Trump is concerned. In March, he asserted that even if Trump did have an affair with Daniels and paid her hush money to keep quiet, evangelicals were obligated to stick by him. According to Jeffress, “Evangelicals still believe in the commandment: thou shalt not have sex with a porn star. However, whether this president violated that commandment or not is totally irrelevant to our support of him.”

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Are all "evangelicals" so gullible?

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by hcap

More from the article I posted...
Another religious leader giving their King a pass.....

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/4-f...nts-trump-era/

2. Robert Jeffress

When President Bill Clinton had an extramarital affair with intern Monica Lewinsky in the 1990s, the Christian Right declared that he was unfit for the presidency. But Robert Jeffress, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas, is much more forgiving where Trump is concerned. In March, he asserted that even if Trump did have an affair with Daniels and paid her hush money to keep quiet, evangelicals were obligated to stick by him. According to Jeffress, “Evangelicals still believe in the commandment: thou shalt not have sex with a porn star. However, whether this president violated that commandment or not is totally irrelevant to our support of him.”

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Are all "evangelicals" so gullible?

Let me understand this...Clinton was IN OFFICE POTUS while messin' with Monica, and Trump was supposedly diddling Daniels in 2006, and you think because money was exchanged in a CA by COHEN, while Trump was in the primaries, these offences are one and the same?....OK, if you say so, Harry.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

Let me understand this...Clinton was IN OFFICE POTUS while messin' with Monica, and Trump was supposedly diddling Daniels in 2006, and you think because money was exchanged in a CA by COHEN, while Trump was in the primaries, these offences are one and the same?....OK, if you say so, Harry.

Robert Jeffress did not make any time distinction. My feelings about Trump screwing around is not the point.

Thinking Obama was the "evil" preznit as compared to the current dumb unfeeling ass, is what I am commenting on. And what boxcar and Greyfox seem to be saying

[Hank]

Originally Posted by hcap

Did you say sense of humor?

Killing seem to be ""God's"" go to move,but somehow it never occurs to him to "kill" the ""Devil""

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Hank

Killing seem to be ""God's"" go to move,but somehow it never occurs to him to "kill" the ""Devil""

Then what would boxcar do? Take up babysitting knowing infants are not evil anymore?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by Hank

Killing seem to be ""God's"" go to move,but somehow it never occurs to him to "kill" the ""Devil""

Stay tuned. That occurs at the final act of the play. You will get to witness it, as will all the devil's seed, for that matter, also get to mock him when they see him wrapped in his covering of worms, laying "in state" on his bed of maggots.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Then what would boxcar do? Take up babysitting knowing infants are not evil anymore?

Newsflash: Our human nature isn't inherited from the devil. Doesn't look like I'll be getting that babysitting gig, after all.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Newsflash: Our human nature isn't inherited from the devil. Doesn't look like I'll be getting that babysitting gig, after all.

Your idiotic original sin says it is.

What about babysitting concerns you or are you worrying about scaring the kids?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Your idiotic original sin says it is.

What about babysitting concerns you or are you worrying about scaring the kids?

Newsflash: All humans inherit Adam's sinful nature. Not the devil's.

Kids scare me. I don't like kids when they cry. I don't like them when they pout either. And I hate it when they get cranky. And I really don't like them if they they need their diaper changed. The only way kids are okay is if they're seen and never heard.