DACA, Davos, and Dems

[reckless]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

That's cool you feel that way but we talk about fake news all the time on here...

Are people such mouth-breathers they need the news to tell them how they should feel about something?

I mean it goes both ways right?

Funny post, especially since some of the most discredited posts have been from you.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by reckless

Funny post, especially since some of the most discredited posts have been from you.

Hmmm... My sources tend to be fairly unbiased.

As far as discredited I've been on a bit of a roll lately if you haven't noticed. How's all that amnesty looking? I bet you loved Trumps comments about TPP at Davos too huh? Glad we've placed big tariffs on China? How about that Iran Deal? I hear that Obamacare replacement is awesome too! Place is going to be great when we deport all of these illegals!

Pro-tip: If I like a Trump speech odds are you shouldn't and I thought he was pretty good at Davos.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Hmmm... My sources tend to be fairly unbiased.

As far as discredited I've been on a bit of a roll lately if you haven't noticed. How's all that amnesty looking? I bet you loved Trumps comments about TPP at Davos too huh? Glad we've placed big tariffs on China? How about that Iran Deal? I hear that Obamacare replacement is awesome too! Place is going to be great when we deport all of these illegals!

Pro-tip: If I like a Trump speech odds are you shouldn't and I thought he was pretty good at Davos.

Whom do you hate more... Trump or ... yourself? You must hate yourself so very much because you sound so very stupid so very often. And you also claim you're 'unbiased' ?

You do say you hate Trump. You also say the Wall is bad and it won't be built. Then you add ... Trump isn't going to build the wall. Well, that should make you happy since Trump's supposedly doing something you want done by not building the wall. Why do you sound so conflicted?

All these economic issues you and so few others claim Trump is clueless about ... he's doing such a great job yet you refuse to concede this; he's getting companies to build plants here, return factories to USA; hire workers, getting more favorable trade deals... what don't you understand? Oh yeah, it's a lot you don't understand.

You must think the $350 billion Apple says it will invest in the US is nothing. There's Foxxconn coming here too, as was announced after the election. I remember you downplayed that too. And Apple will also pay $35-40 billion in repatriation taxes before all this investment. How much did Tesla and the solar panel companies pay in taxes? Oh yes, they probably didn't pay any taxes.

For the 5000th time, when the Trump Tax Bill of 2017 was passed and signed it eliminated the individual and employee mandate of the ACA. This elimination of the mandates effectively ended ObamaCare. Deny whatever you wish to deny, young fool, but thanks to Trump's tax bill, ObamaCare is dead and that's awesome.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by reckless

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LOL

So I listed off all of those things and all you come back with is the Tax Bill? I called for most of that stuff in 2012 so where's my credit for it?

Keep patting yourself on the back I'll keep pointing out broken campaign promises. RINO (your term not mine) Trump is just fine with me... just keep him scripted and off twitter.

PS) Eliminating a mandate is not replacing with something great. Wait until you see those premiums now.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

LOL

So I listed off all of those things and all you come back with is the Tax Bill? I called for most of that stuff in 2012 so where's my credit for it?

Keep patting yourself on the back I'll keep pointing out broken campaign promises. RINO (your term not mine) Trump is just fine with me... just keep him scripted and off twitter.

PS) Eliminating a mandate is not replacing with something great. Wait until you see those premiums now.

Your definition of something great and the President's are not the same and you know that don't you? The honesty is we eliminate the new entitlement, and make it a non government program. In no way should moneys from our government subsidize business people or young people be forced to. Opening groups that can buy across state lines and form pools that did not exist before can be done. Like a pool containing people from temp agency's would contain different costs and risks, just like a pool that contained Uber drivers. But a socialist program is off the table, and so what you might want may fall into that category.

[Clocker]

Breitbart says that based on the results of previous programs and current information about the White House plan, the Trump DACA plan could give amnesty to 4.5 million illegals.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...e-obamas-daca/

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Breitbart says that based on the results of previous programs and current information about the White House plan, the Trump DACA plan could give amnesty to 4.5 million illegals.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...e-obamas-daca/

So I assume the Democrats are on board then? They can't possibly have an issue with all this.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

So I assume the Democrats are on board then? They can't possibly have an issue with all this.

The Dems want amnesty and open borders, period. The "official" number is 12 million. Given the kinds of errors in the government numbers in the past, and as shown in the Breitbart analysis and elsewhere, I'd put the over/under at twice that. And then I'd bet the over.

[Tom]

A swing and a miss........steeeeerike!

[davew]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

So I assume the Democrats are on board then? They can't possibly have an issue with all this.

The white house wants to restrict 'family based' immigration. The dims do not like this because it will not allow the large numbers of 'brothers and sisters' and their kids to follow.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by Clocker

The Dems want amnesty and open borders, period. The "official" number is 12 million. Given the kinds of errors in the government numbers in the past, and as shown in the Breitbart analysis and elsewhere, I'd put the over/under at twice that. And then I'd bet the over.

If that's true, then the Democrats have problems compromising.

I really don't want open borders, and I'd prefer if we didn't give amnesty. But I'm willing to let go of the second point if there's no other good solution.

[davew]

What is wrong with the democrats?

They do not seem to want to resolve or come up with a solution to the immigration issue, they just seem to want it to remain an 'issue' they can campaign with.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by davew

What is wrong with the democrats?

They do not seem to want to resolve or come up with a solution to the immigration issue, they just seem to want it to remain an 'issue' they can campaign with.

Showing their true colors? Like you state they NEED it as an issue as it will hurt them more if it is resolved. I do hope President Trump forces the issue and solves this mess once and for all.

[chadk66]

it's always been about that . shouldn't surprise anybody. If they didn't have that they would have nothing.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by chadk66

it's always been about that . shouldn't surprise anybody. If they didn't have that they would have nothing.

You're implying they have something.