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12-26-2019, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ubercapper
If you're referring overnight entries, they don't get into the system until around 4 to 5 pm eastern on Thursday as long as I can remember,. It's just 3:38 as write this, so although you could be right about an entry shortage, that's not the reason for Sunday's overnight entries not to be available at this moment.
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Was going to say the same, but now 6:05 ET and still no entries that I can find.
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12-26-2019, 06:48 PM
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I'm still unable to download (pdf format) Saturday's card from drf.com. Tells me that it's doing maintenance. I downloaded it this morning but it didn't have the post positions or the MLs.
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12-26-2019, 06:52 PM
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The pps and ML for Sat were not added until this afternoon about 3-4:00.
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12-26-2019, 07:39 PM
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Gulfstream pps routinely come out around 5:30, or even later, East Coast time, so Santa Anita not being up at 4:30 West Coast time hardly seems alarming.
As far as the Final not coming out ( program numbers and MLs ) until this afternoon, that's also not late, especially given yesterday was Christmas. The NYRA "final" comes out around 1pm ET two days before raceday pretty much regularly.
It feels like some people are unfairly looking for issues in CA these days.
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12-26-2019, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Redboard
I'm still unable to download (pdf format) Saturday's card from drf.com. Tells me that it's doing maintenance. I downloaded it this morning but it didn't have the post positions or the MLs.
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its working now
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12-27-2019, 10:14 AM
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To add to what Andy wrote, for California tracks, the final file is nearly always sent from the track for processing 24 hours out. There is an "intermediate" file which is often sent 48 hours out which contains m.l. odds but California tracks have always been an anomaly compared to the rest of the tracks in North America in terms of their final file, with most other tracks' final files available 48 to 120 hours out.
You can always check a track's early and final file publishing times on this calendar http://www.equibase.com/live.cfm
If you click on the Date link it will bring up a page with entry draw times and other information, for example for today http://www.equibase.com/liveday.cfm?...%3A00%3A00%2E0
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12-27-2019, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ubercapper
To add to what Andy wrote, for California tracks, the final file is nearly always sent from the track for processing 24 hours out. There is an "intermediate" file which is often sent 48 hours out which contains m.l. odds but California tracks have always been an anomaly compared to the rest of the tracks in North America in terms of their final file, with most other tracks' final files available 48 to 120 hours out.
You can always check a track's early and final file publishing times on this calendar http://www.equibase.com/live.cfm
If you click on the Date link it will bring up a page with entry draw times and other information, for example for today http://www.equibase.com/liveday.cfm?...%3A00%3A00%2E0
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That is great info, thanks. As many times as I've used that calendar I didn't know that!
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12-27-2019, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
YOU said NOTHING on national TV - and that is not true.
You are NOT qualified to tell lies. Just admit you were wrong for once - for God's sake, is it that important to you to appear to be a genius? We were specifically talking about BASEBALL, and that was why this was logical.
World Series games have been called on account of rain before. Some games have rain delays - on televised games.
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Tom, were talking about horse racing, which the networks consider an irrelevant sport. What they do for important sports is not part of the discussion, and I was not referring to sports that people care about in my comment.
Andy misread the context of what I was saying.
Yes, I know that in baseball and other sports that lots more people watch, like golf, the networks SOMETIMES allow rainouts (not always- as I said, some baseball playoffs have been played in bad weather, especially when Bowie Kuhn was commissioner). You are pretending I didn't know that, when in fact I was not referring to what happens in major sports. Our sport isn't one, and we will do whatever network TV tells us to.
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12-27-2019, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC
Apparently you have never been wrong on this forum.
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Not true. I admitted I was wrong about the government pressuring CBS not to say "Marlboro".
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12-27-2019, 12:44 PM
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The gift that keeps on giving.
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12-27-2019, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
Tom, were talking about horse racing, which the networks consider an irrelevant sport. What they do for important sports is not part of the discussion, and I was not referring to sports that people care about in my comment.
Andy misread the context of what I was saying.
Yes, I know that in baseball and other sports that lots more people watch, like golf, the networks SOMETIMES allow rainouts (not always- as I said, some baseball playoffs have been played in bad weather, especially when Bowie Kuhn was commissioner). You are pretending I didn't know that, when in fact I was not referring to what happens in major sports. Our sport isn't one, and we will do whatever network TV tells us to.
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I only did a 20-second Google search, but the 2019 Breeders Cup Classic drew 2.08 million viewers, and the first 10 weeks of Sunday Night Baseball on ESPN in 2019 drew an average of 1.45 million viewers. I know rights fees between the two are vastly different, but comparing the TV network impact of a baseball rainout and a horse race rainout isn't as crazy as you make it out to be.
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12-27-2019, 08:15 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
Tom, were talking about horse racing, which the networks consider an irrelevant sport. What they do for important sports is not part of the discussion, and I was not referring to sports that people care about in my comment.
Andy misread the context of what I was saying.
Yes, I know that in baseball and other sports that lots more people watch, like golf, the networks SOMETIMES allow rainouts (not always- as I said, some baseball playoffs have been played in bad weather, especially when Bowie Kuhn was commissioner). You are pretending I didn't know that, when in fact I was not referring to what happens in major sports. Our sport isn't one, and we will do whatever network TV tells us to.
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I'm not the one pretending here.
We weren't even talking about TV here - I used MLB as an example of why calling for rain was not an unusual event.
YOU are the one who hijacked the discussion with your insane ego and delusions of grandeur.
What TV show were you associated with, My Mother the Car?
Your post, in it's entirety
Nothing on network TV ever gets postponed.
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Last edited by Tom; 12-27-2019 at 08:19 PM.
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12-27-2019, 08:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
What TV show were you associated with, My Mother the Car?
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Did you really have to drag poor My Mother the Car into this, Tom?
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12-27-2019, 08:36 PM
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Nothing on network TV ever gets postponed.
Series game was cancelled because of an Earth Quake.
I'm sure the Olympics were postponed in Munich.
9/11, Kennedy Assassination and I'm sure there are a bunch more.
May need to rethink tat.
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12-27-2019, 11:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airford1
Nothing on network TV ever gets postponed.
Series game was cancelled because of an Earth Quake.
I'm sure the Olympics were postponed in Munich.
9/11, Kennedy Assassination and I'm sure there are a bunch more.
May need to rethink tat.
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Yep, sports get postponed all the time on network TV...
Think when NASCAR gets rained out on an oval track.
A football game when there is a blackout, tornado warnings, lightning strike, etc.
Baseball for the same reasons.
Golf for the same reasons as well.
The network doesn't have that much power over sports where they can force the event to run, it usually ends up with them moving the event over to another channel if that is what it has to come to.
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