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11-09-2020, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
i don't think that Pfizer didn't get any warped speed money on this one.
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I don't know if Pfizer got money or not, either, lamboguy, BUT a guy called a radio show I listened to this morning and said he thinks Pfizer deliberately held off the announcement until after the election to stick it to President Trump. The caller did say that Pfizer did receive about $100 million in warped speed money.
I do not know what's real, imagined or just over the top conspiracy stuff anymore. You can thank the crazies on the far left, their partners in the mainstream media, and the silly Democrat partisans for all this uncertainty.
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11-09-2020, 03:16 PM
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Pfizer first, but Novavax may ultimately prove to be best. It doesn't require extremely low temperature storage, either, and it outperformed the Pfizer vaccine in earlier phase trials. They are in phase 3 now and are more globally oriented.
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11-09-2020, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
i don't think that Pfizer didn't get any warped speed money on this one.
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No, but they had beaucoup Viagra money in reserve to stimulate the development. Moderna, yea right. They're getting a huge bump today off Pfizer's coattails.
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11-09-2020, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
i don't think that Pfizer didn't get any warped speed money on this one.
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Correct.
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11-09-2020, 05:17 PM
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Correct.
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11-09-2020, 05:31 PM
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As usual twitter is wrong.
No, Pfizer’s apparent vaccine success is not a function of Trump’s ‘Operation Warp Speed’https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...on-warp-speed/
In July, Pfizer did agree to partner with the government on distribution of a vaccine, leveraging what will be a massive, complicated effort run by the federal government to ensure that as many people as possible can be immunize d. But its development efforts weren’t part of the government’s program.
“Pfizer, unlike its competitors, did not join Operation Warp Speed, the government initiative designed to erase the financial risk of vaccine and therapeutics development by providing funding to companies and helping coordinate the trials,”
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11-09-2020, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
As usual twitter is wrong.
No, Pfizer’s apparent vaccine success is not a function of Trump’s ‘Operation Warp Speed’https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...on-warp-speed/
In July, Pfizer did agree to partner with the government on distribution of a vaccine, leveraging what will be a massive, complicated effort run by the federal government to ensure that as many people as possible can be immunize d. But its development efforts weren’t part of the government’s program.
“Pfizer, unlike its competitors, did not join Operation Warp Speed, the government initiative designed to erase the financial risk of vaccine and therapeutics development by providing funding to companies and helping coordinate the trials,” |
In June
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...nst-SARS-CoV-2
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NEW YORK & MAINZ, Germany--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced the execution of an agreement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense to meet the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed program
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11-09-2020, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
As usual twitter is wrong.
No, Pfizer’s apparent vaccine success is not a function of Trump’s ‘Operation Warp Speed’https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...on-warp-speed/
In July, Pfizer did agree to partner with the government on distribution of a vaccine, leveraging what will be a massive, complicated effort run by the federal government to ensure that as many people as possible can be immunize d. But its development efforts weren’t part of the government’s program.
“Pfizer, unlike its competitors, did not join Operation Warp Speed, the government initiative designed to erase the financial risk of vaccine and therapeutics development by providing funding to companies and helping coordinate the trials,” |
twitter wrong? I thought they just deleted information they disagreed with?
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11-09-2020, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike
Pfizer first, but Novavax may ultimately prove to be best. It doesn't require extremely low temperature storage, either, and it outperformed the Pfizer vaccine in earlier phase trials. They are in phase 3 now and are more globally oriented.
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Sounds promising.
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11-09-2020, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
In June
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...nst-SARS-CoV-2
Excerpt:
NEW YORK & MAINZ, Germany--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced the execution of an agreement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense to meet the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed program |
I guess you did not reed the details of the link I posted
"In July, Pfizer did agree to partner with the government on distribution of a vaccine, leveraging what will be a massive, complicated effort run by the federal government to ensure that as many people as possible can be immunized. But its development efforts weren’t part of the government’s program."
R&D was not covered. Pfizer did that part on their own.
As I said, Warp Speed was still one of the few things Trump did right.
Distribution is a massive problem. All the more reasons for Trump to allow the orderly transition of power.
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11-09-2020, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
I guess you did not reed the details of the link I posted
"In July, Pfizer did agree to partner with the government on distribution of a vaccine, leveraging what will be a massive, complicated effort run by the federal government to ensure that as many people as possible can be immunized. But its development efforts weren’t part of the government’s program."
R&D was not covered. Pfizer did that part on their own.
As I said, Warp Speed was still one of the few things Trump did right.
Distribution is a massive problem. All the more reasons for Trump to allow the orderly transition of power.
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As generous as I am. HCAP. I hope you are the first one to receive the vaccine. The very first one. You have so much trust in it. You know so much about it. What could go wrong. Prove it. Do us all a solid. Volunteer to be the superhero that you are. Be the first in line.
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11-10-2020, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisl
As generous as I am. HCAP. I hope you are the first one to receive the vaccine. The very first one. You have so much trust in it. You know so much about it. What could go wrong. Prove it. Do us all a solid. Volunteer to be the superhero that you are. Be the first in line.
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Odd, I finally say something positive about your inept moron, and get called out?
Are you an anti-vaxxer Trumpite?
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11-10-2020, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
Odd, I finally say something positive about your inept moron, and get called out?
Are you an anti-vaxxer Trumpite?
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I suspect yo have already gotten covid and survived. They are now saying 20% of recovered have mental health problems within 3 months.
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