New player-what circuit?

[Prof.Factor]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

40 years for me, and did you happen to notice my name? I guess you're seeing something that poly-track players must really like, with Woodbine being your "hands-down" top selection.....Yeah, that must be it...

Edit: I forgot it's Tapeta.....whatever

I'll play any track any surface. If you've been doing this for 40 years then that shouldn't matter.
Woodbine's signal product is 2nd to none and their betting menu suits all.
I'm not selling anything .... I offered my opinion to original poster's query, as asked.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by Prof.Factor

I'll play any track any surface. If you've been doing this for 40 years then that shouldn't matter.
Woodbine's signal product is 2nd to none and their betting menu suits all.
I'm not selling anything .... I offered my opinion to original poster's query, as asked.

Fair enough, we disagree.....We're done.

[Tom]

Woodbine was hands down my favorite track until they changed to Tapeta. I stopped playing until I get a full year's data on it. But so many timing errors pointed out this year, I have not yet looked at all at it. I read some thing "46" posted elsewhere about the timing from first hand, hands on experience and it turned me off.

Tracks that can't time races have no integrity with me. I trust them not at all. They are not professional.

[Robert Fischer]

Woodbine seems to vary more than average, when it comes to race flow, and bias.

It can be frustrating when you handicap a race, and then all the bums trot around in a merry-go-round and contend, or when all the bums circle the field and contend.

However, if you are able recognize those races and bet the horses back you can stay ahead. Same goes for occasionally recognizing an opportunity in the moment.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Tom

Woodbine was hands down my favorite track until they changed to Tapeta. I stopped playing until I get a full year's data on it. But so many timing errors pointed out this year, I have not yet looked at all at it. I read some thing "46" posted elsewhere about the timing from first hand, hands on experience and it turned me off.

Tracks that can't time races have no integrity with me. I trust them not at all. They are not professional.

I have said no to all artificial tracks for decades and will never bet even $2 on one again.

[AltonKelsey]

Curious, why the Prof. despises NYRA for betting purposes?

[AltonKelsey]

Originally Posted by AltonKelsey

Curious, why the Prof. despises NYRA for betting purposes?

Apparently he hates it so much, he's speechless

[Prof.Factor]

Originally Posted by AltonKelsey

Apparently he hates it so much, he's speechless

I don't check this board too often but after reading your post(s) I decided to watch a Belmont race with an open mind, presuming they are doing better since the last time I watched.

The following is a by-the-minute simulcast breakdown and my assessment thereof. Enjoy!


Belmont Park 6-01-2017 race 5 (8 horse field)

21-18 min. mark - race replays (Prof. grade A)

17 min. mark - Bourbon commercial ... if you have to advertise it's a good spot (Prof. grade C)

16-15 min. mark - Belmont Stakes ad ... seriously? The Belmont? 2 minutes? And it's opaque to boot. (Prof. grade C)

14 min. mark - paddock glimpse of 2 horses ... (Prof. grade B)

13-9 min. mark - paddock ... good looks (Prof. grade A)

8-7 min. mark - walk over ... (Prof. grade A)

6 min. mark - walk onto track ... no post parade to speak of (Prof. grade D)

5 min. mark - warm-ups ... good looks at #4,#2,#1,#3 ... (Prof. grade B)

4 min. mark - warm-ups ... good looks at #4 again,#3 again, glimpse of #8 (Prof. grade D)

3 min. mark - transparent pool totals graphic over some pointless background graphic (no horses) ... (Prof. grade E)

2 min. mark - end of warm-up ... looks at #5,#2,#8,#6 ... still not a one peek at #7 (a 3-1 horse) ... (Prof. grade C)

1 min. mark - heading toward gate - distant group shot, looks at #2,#7 walking to gate ... (Prof. grade C)

0 min. mark - loading

Final GPA 2.15 ... C


Exactly how I remember the NYRA format ... lacking.
I require more, much more.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I have said no to all artificial tracks for decades and will never bet even $2 on one again.

My biggest score ever happened at Turfway. One of my best seasons ever happened at Woodbine. Nothing wrong with poly - you just have to understand your track.

[no breathalyzer]

[QUOTE=Tom;2178570]My biggest score ever happened at Turfway. One of my best seasons ever happened at Woodbine. Nothing wrong with poly - you just have to understand your track.[/QUOTE]

well said ... i n a way i like poly ... keeneland was fun when they had it

[chaz63]

Woodbine/Mohawk for both T-bred and S-Bred. All day, everyday, every which way!