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Old 05-24-2023, 04:07 PM   #1
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Happy Valley Racing

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I bet Happy Valley for the first time today - just 2 races - on Twinspires.com
a 9 race card and every race but one had 12 runners
so different than U.S. racing
the fave often went of at over 3/1
only one fave was odds on
DRF gives free PPs - but they're not very good
despite that this was a welcome change
so tired of U.S. races with 5 or 6 runners

would like to hear comments if others are betting or have opinions about Happy Valley or Sha Tin

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Old 05-24-2023, 09:14 PM   #2
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You’d better be careful Half Smoke, you just might get hooked on playing what I personally think is the finest racing product on the planet! I’ve been playing both Happy Valley and Sha Tin for over 7 years and I must admit that I’ve been spoiled. With the full fields and some great value plays among the Verticals, it feels like I’m playing the races in NY back in the 70’s.

For quite some time I also posted preliminary and live picks in the PA Selection forum as well as having posted many numerous opinions about the advantages of playing HK racing. Rather than repeating myself you might be interested in seeing those previous posts by doing a simple PA “Search” using “Hong Kong” as the key words.

BTW you might also be interested in using the HKJC Form Guide instead of the DRF PPs.
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/speed...de.html?race=1

Or their Race Cards:
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/infor...se=HV&RaceNo=1

If you’re interested in the value of the LIVE tote action, it’s available here:
https://bet.hkjc.com/racing/pages/od...ue=HV&raceno=1

For today’s and archived complete results:
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/infor...alResults.aspx

The English version of the HKJC Web site:
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/engli...wcase/live.asp

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Old 05-25-2023, 05:04 AM   #3
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okay, thanks much for that

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Old 05-25-2023, 01:27 PM   #4
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I would agree quite strongly that Hong Kong offers the best racing product today. However, be advised it's a different game than in the U.S., where the horse's performances are monitored much more closely by the stewards (especially favorites who run poorly), and no race day drugs are allowed.

Post position, trip, jockey changes and track bias need to be looked at more carefully, and I would also suggest (like Nitro) looking at the tote for clues as to which horse is live. You'll be amazed at the late money plunges, sometimes cutting the horse's odds in half or more (brown lamp turns on!), and unlike the U.S. those late moves don't pan out as often. Horses and gimmick prices dropping 20 to 49% are green in color.

Happy Valley has an uneven oval shape (sort of like Mountaineer Park), with tighter turns, and I think the handle at Sha Tin is a bit more as well. I read somewhere that 1 out of every 6 Hong Kong residents is a horseplayer, and it shows in the pools. They tend to bet more in one race than the whole cards at the major U.S. tracks.

Hong Kong also presents a "closed system" of sorts, where trainers, jockeys, owners and even the horses are all approved to run there, and there is very little turnover or shippers compared to most U.S. tracks. This allows a rating or handicap value to be established for each horse, and weights are assigned off those in each class. As if that isn't enough, the majority of the horses are also geldings, which tend to be more reliable/consistent. So the bottom line is there are plenty of tough puzzles to solve, though admittedly the chalk often gets there....

Good luck!
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Old 05-25-2023, 05:45 PM   #5
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Are there any HK data files?
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Old 05-25-2023, 08:21 PM   #6
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Are there any HK data files?
You might want to start with this Web link (for this coming weekend). Depending upon your interests there are many additional links on each race page with a variety of statistical information that you might want to become familiar with.
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/infor.../RaceCard.aspx

You can also visit The English version of the O.A. HKJC Web site:
https://racing.hkjc.com/racing/engli...wcase/live.asp
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I meant comma-delimited data files.
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